masda74 To Loud Gold Donating Members 4,112 Member For: 13y 1m 13d Gender: Male Location: WA, Perth Posted 29/04/15 12:21 AM Share Posted 29/04/15 12:21 AM Don't get me wrong here Luke, but they are Hippocrates. They have drugs readily available on every corner and yet they do not shoot their own drug lords?After all this time, they should no have been shot. I do not support drugs in any way or sort, but they should have had life in prison.They have murders walking the streets after 5/10 years and were not shot? wtf?What sort of justice system is that? I agree with Rab.I agree with removing the ambassador from there. I think that the tourism will be dropping dramatically soon and they will feel the pain.I will no longer be going to Bali on holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 3m 20d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 29/04/15 12:22 AM Share Posted 29/04/15 12:22 AM "For far too long Australians have treated Bali and It's People like second class citizens. It is not an extension of our country and we have no right to treat it that way."You mean by tourists visiting the country in droves and spending huge amounts of coin? Or maybe aid given for natural disasters and terrorist attacks?No I mean Over Indulging to the point of pissing/vomitting in the streets/on religious significance. Would we accept one nationality of people coming to Australia getting full of piss/drugs and desecrating our churches? Probably not.Don't confuse what's happened to these two with anything to do with Foreign aid or the Bali bombing. There's a reason we pump so much aid into Indo, Trade Agreements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab WOT? Moderating Team 10,981 Member For: 11y 10m 18d Gender: Male Location: Frankston, 3199 Posted 29/04/15 12:23 AM Share Posted 29/04/15 12:23 AM And ooh yay - they were rehabilitated.Give me a freaking break - am pretty sure if I was locked away in a foreign prison I'd quickly become a model prisoner too.Would almost guarantee that if they were arrested in Australia after the plane landed rather than before it took off they'd probably be out of jail by now and more likely than not menacing society again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 3m 20d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 29/04/15 12:30 AM Share Posted 29/04/15 12:30 AM Don't get me wrong here Luke, but they are Hippocrates. They have drugs readily available on every corner and yet they do not shoot their own drug lords?After all this time, they should no have been shot. I do not support drugs in any way or sort, but they should have had life in prison.They have murders walking the streets after 5/10 years and were not shot? wtf?What sort of justice system is that? I agree with Rab.I agree with removing the ambassador from there. I think that the tourism will be dropping dramatically soon and they will feel the pain.I will no longer be going to Bali on holidays.They executed two Indo's last night one for Rape/Murder one for Drug Trafficking so it's not correct to say they don't act on their own. Where do you think the drugs in Indo/Bali come from?How many time have they appealed? That has contributed to the time it has taken.I'm not defending the law or punishment in Indo all I'm saying is we as a country some how think we have a right to have influence in their affairs but we simply don'tAnybody remember the outcry when the Bali bombers where sentenced to death and executed?......no me neither. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masda74 To Loud Gold Donating Members 4,112 Member For: 13y 1m 13d Gender: Male Location: WA, Perth Posted 29/04/15 12:35 AM Share Posted 29/04/15 12:35 AM I know that they executed two indo's last night, but I reckon they did that to reduce the retaliation.I am pretty sure that if you were to walk the streets today and ask for drugs, you would not find any problems getting some in Bali.Their appeals have delayed the inevitable, but the amount of time it takes to process anything in court is the same as it is in Europe in some countries.I believe it may have something to do with corruption.........nope, don't remember any outcry either about the bali bombers.My point is that if they have been around for this long, they shouldn't have been executed.Nothing can be done now and I hope the media coverage on this stops.Had a gut full of it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 3m 20d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 29/04/15 12:42 AM Share Posted 29/04/15 12:42 AM I am pretty sure that if you were to walk the streets today and ask for drugs, you would not find any problems getting some in Bali.This is the bit I'm struggling to understand. What do you suggest they do besides follow the legal process that exists in Bali. If we lined up all the drug dealers in Bali and shot them would it be a good thing or a bad thing or does it only matter because they convicted traffickers in this scenario where Australian?If two Indon nationals was caught trafficking drugs into Australia and caught and extradited back to indo then executed would we car? I doubt there would be and #ourboys tweets or "brave and defiant to the end" headlines?Anyway your last line pretty much sums it up for me as well. So much for the two taboo subjects on car forums - Religion and Politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,132 Member For: 16y 9m 3d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 29/04/15 12:45 AM Share Posted 29/04/15 12:45 AM this shouldn't even be a political discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never had any say Panda I <3 Floods Silver Donating Members 11,198 Member For: 13y 5m 12d Gender: Male Location: South West QLD Posted 29/04/15 01:02 AM Share Posted 29/04/15 01:02 AM ^^ What he said..It's not even a religious discussion if you really think about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDoCo I'm getten too old for this s**t Bronze Donating Members 4,509 Member For: 11y 9m 6d Gender: Male Location: A big bridge over a river in South Australia Posted 29/04/15 01:13 AM Share Posted 29/04/15 01:13 AM IMHOIt's their law so deal with it.I am against the death penalty as I feel that it creates more victims of the original crime ie. family members/friends etc. and I do understand why so many people in the US of A protest against it but...............it IS the law of the land.To quote Red from Shawshank Redemption:Rehabilitation is a bullsh*t word ...Just ask Barlow & Chambers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Captain Retard" Member 1,417 Member For: 10y 8m 10d Gender: Male Location: Shellharbour NSW Posted 29/04/15 01:28 AM Share Posted 29/04/15 01:28 AM The fact is that 100s of people die in various ways in Australia every day that they had no choice in.Those 2 guys had a choice!No I don't agree with the death penalty, it's not a deterrent, but I respect other countries laws and sovereignty.Plenty of other countries have the death penalty, are we going to pull diplomats from those countries as well?Of course not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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