Global Warming Nonsense

[SCRIBR]

... because most people are stupid...

[Venom XR6]

  Flukey said:

So I take it most perceive CC or GW to be nothing more than propoganda by the worlds politicians.

What's the agenda?

To make more money for the government through the selling of carbon credits. Its just like greed cameras, when they first started being used they said all the money they made through speeding fines was going to go towards making the roads safer, but in reality about a quarter of it goes towards the roads and the rest of it the government keeps and gets wasted on cost blow outs and all the other fk ups the government manages to do.

Its all about the money, nothing more nothing less, if they were serious about reducing pollution they would switch from coal powered power stations to nuclear and polllution would halve overnight, but then the greenie retards would complain about that too for fks sake.

[Dillz]

I laugh at all the wankers that voted for this knob, it's a shame all of us have to pay for there naive stupidity.

[SCRIBR]

  SCRIBR said:

... because most people are stupid...

[Kimberley Scott]

Ooooh ooooh can I be one of the smart ones please.

Scotty

[sixfan]

  Flukey said:

Why do the masses need controlling?

Noam Chompski hit it pretty well on the head,

Read "Manufacturing Consent"

Nobody wants to pay more taxes, so you have to convince them its for their own good....

[Dagabond]

Interesting Doco on the Discovery Channel over the weekend on the fall of the Egyptians around the time of the Pyramids 55BC....

The scientists on the show are of the belief through carbon dating that it was a cataclysmic change in the weather that wiped them out....

[tmac450]

Yes, I saw it too, which backs what I said earlier, spending all of our efforts and money trying to reduce CO2 levels (that appear to have nothing to do with actual climate change) instead of actually making preperations for the human race to surcice under different climactic conditions is where the real dangers lie.

Maybe the followers of the evnironmental religion will say that the Egyptian's high polution caused the climate changes.

On the topic of why do the people need controlling, I read an interesting article on Facism and how it has continually raised it's head throuought history. It has always basically been a way to control the masses, but has been defeated (ie, Hitler and Co.) because their implimentatation was too transparent). The article linked the new 'climate' based environmental movement as the latest facist push for control, stating that this time they have found a toehold that gives them the control they require.

[tab]

Yeah it'd be from all those petrol powered vehicles the egyptians were driving around....bloody environmental vandals

Green is the new black. Whack a green label on something and it'll sell like hotcakes, regardless of what industry you're talking about. People have been given something to feel warm and fuzzy about so the government is provoked in to jumping on the bandwagon purely to seal their political future. Doesn’t matter if they have good science to back up their agendas or not, they just have to be perceived to actually care about this supposed massive contrived problem we are facing.

[tab]

Dunno how I started getting these, this mob is a bit out there but often thought provoking...

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Citizens Electoral Council of Australia

Media Release 9th of September 2008

Craig Isherwood, National Secretary

PO Box 376, COBURG, VIC 3058

Phone: 03 9354 0544 Fax: 03 9354 0166

Email: cec@cecaust.com.au

Website: http://www.cecaust.com.au

Garnaut’s only “compromise” is with genocidalists

Mining tycoon Ross Garnaut has delivered his latest advice to the Rudd government on climate change, which calls for a 10 per cent cut in CO2 emissions by 2020; far from being a “compromise” with industry, as the most rabid environmentalists are charging, Professor “Guano’s” advice will destroy Australian industry, and set us on the path to achieving the fantasy of leading genocidalist greenies like Bertrand Russell and H.G. Wells, and their modern disciples in Prince Philip, Maurice Strong, Tim Flannery et al., to depopulate the world.

Guano calls Australia to join a global agreement to stabilise greenhouse gas concentrations to no higher than 550 parts per million carbon dioxide equivalent (equivalent, -e, meaning CO2 levels plus other “greenhouse” gases like methane etc).

The notion of a “global agreement” is pure fiction. Two of the biggest world powers—China and India, have made it quite clear they won’t be bullied into such an economically ruinous scheme. The Indian Prime Minister’s Council on Climate Change did an extensive analysis on India’s climate and concluded: “No firm link between the documented changes described below and warming due to anthropogenic climate change has yet been established.”

Guano says today’s “greenhouse gas” level is at 455 CO2-e ppm and we should ultimately be looking to achieve a goal of 400 ppm, which will require “technologies that can remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.” (Rumour has it that Guano is attempting to genetically engineer reverse farting cows, and he is investigating ways to extract absorbed sunrays from icebergs.)

The reality is that the Earth’s atmosphere today contains a minuscule 380 ppm CO2 (0.038%). Compared to former geologic times, our present atmosphere is CO2 impoverished! In the last 600 million years of Earth’s history, only the Carboniferous Period (approximately 300 million years ago) and our present age, the Quaternary Period, have witnessed CO2 levels of less than 400 ppm.

The dinosaurs survived just fine when carbon dioxide levels exceeded 2,000 ppm during the Jurassic Period. Moreover, 450 million years ago at the end of the Ordovician Period, the earth went into an Ice Age when carbon dioxide levels exceeded 4,000 ppm!

More carbon dioxide should actually be welcomed to enhance plant growth. However, unfortunately our meagre industrial emissions will do little on this front, and besides, we need to move towards clean and efficient nuclear power—which Guano has ruled out. No surprise here—Guano and his fellow economic hit men are only working to enslave us—the environment is just a cover story.

Scientists observing sunspot cycles clearly identify that we are entering a cooling period, which will result in lower atmospheric carbon dioxide levels no matter how much we crank up our industry. This is because when the Earth cools, as has consistently occurred throughout geological history, the oceans will absorb vast quantities of atmospheric carbon dioxide. The 40,000 Gt C (gigatonnes of carbon) stored in the ocean dwarfs the 750 Gt C in the atmosphere which inturn dwarfs mankind’s annual 7 Gt contribution. And the oceans will easily absorb our extra puff in the wind.

More to the point, like clockwork, in a 100,000-year cycle, our pleasantly warm interglacial period is nearly at an end. This glacial freeze is actually the climate change problem that will be of most concern to future generations.