XR6T8080 Member 398 Member For: 18y 4m 12d Gender: Male Posted 17/03/08 06:06 AM Author Share Posted 17/03/08 06:06 AM that depends on which side of the religious fence you sit on..some believe you're correct, while MOST others care to differ.I dont even sit on the same street as the religious people, let alone the same fence.I believe there is more athiests in the world now than any religious group, its only a matter of time before everybody starts to wake up, some people are a little slower than others... if you are religious, which religion? and what makes yours the 'right' one? there are so many different fairy tailes out there its hard to know which one is the correct one.what makes any of them right? there were religions around long before christianity or the muslum faiths, where are they now? im not having a go at one religion, im having a go at EVERY SINGLE religion, its all madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dule Donating Members 1,180 Member For: 17y 9m 26d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 17/03/08 06:10 AM Share Posted 17/03/08 06:10 AM The problem with conspiracy theories (about 9/11) is that there are so many of them and they all seem true and valid, so which one do we believe in, at the end of the day only one can be true. Then again that might be the doing of big powers themselves, creating false conspiracies so the real one is lost in the bunch. Confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XR6T8080 Member 398 Member For: 18y 4m 12d Gender: Male Posted 17/03/08 06:15 AM Author Share Posted 17/03/08 06:15 AM ok mate, you really need to stop talking now. You have made your ignorance on matters of military power and strategy all to clear. This is some of the funniest stuff I've ever seen just about my entire family has served in WW1, WW2, all through the irish stuff as well. They were everything from snipers, commando's, 2 air force pilots, and we even had a Lt. Colonel in the family. My uncle also built a bomb shelter about 5 years before WW2, and was laughed at by the entire street "what the hell are you going to need that for" kind of things. Guess where the entire street was when liverpool was bombedwhats your families military history... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob^ Member 170 Member For: 21y 3m 8d Location: Geelong Posted 17/03/08 06:18 AM Share Posted 17/03/08 06:18 AM So you people going on about religion happily go to work on Christmas day yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRDOSE BIGRED Donating Members 1,410 Member For: 17y 10m 19d Gender: Male Location: Sth East Melb Posted 17/03/08 06:19 AM Share Posted 17/03/08 06:19 AM (edited) The problem with conspiracy theories (about 9/11) is that there are so many of them and they all seem true and valid, so which one do we believe in, at the end of the day only one can be true. Then again that might be the doing of big powers themselves, creating false conspiracies so the real one is lost in the bunch. Confused I personally cant see how passenger jets can bring down whole buildings the size of the world trade centre. They would do damage and cause a fire to the building but to make it collapse in such a short time and so suddenly I cant see that happening and if the jets really did bring down the twin towers how did the building next to them collapse too? I believe the buildings were brought down from inside using a s#@t load of explosives and the planes were just a diversion....just sayin wat I sense most of us are thinkin..... Edited 17/03/08 06:22 AM by XRDOSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XR6T8080 Member 398 Member For: 18y 4m 12d Gender: Male Posted 17/03/08 06:25 AM Author Share Posted 17/03/08 06:25 AM (edited) Regarding religion, it was a cause for a lot of wars in the past and it still is but neither WW1 or WW2 were caused by religion.WW2 / Hitler had very strong ties to the catholic church, hence the current pope being a member of the natzi party.When germany fell, the catholic priests who were hiding germans right through italy, gave them passage, alot of them ended up down in africa converting the blacks. They got out fast because the italian tanks had 5 gears in reverse I think you'll find WW1 and WW2 had very strong ties with religion.If you look at which countries were neutral in the war, ireland is a good example, a huge catholic population, of course there not going to be fighting with the germans because they would have had the sh*t bombed out of them, but they can remain neutral, and feed intelligence back to germany, which is exactly what happened.Theres a good show called the Tudors on cable, I dont know if anybody has watched it, but it shows just how much power these religious groups have, basically the popes and the arch bishops decide who is going to be invaded, well then they did anyways, not so much now.one of these groups also tells us about how the earth is flat, the non exsistance of dinosaurs, and how the earth is the centre of the universe. but they had to change their tune on those issues, im picking on one particular religion here, one might say they could be held on charges of genocide because of not allowing their people to use contraception, causing massive outbreaks of HIV / Aids the world over. Edited 17/03/08 06:29 AM by wesleyt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-SPEC You are a dead set goose Silver Donating Members 3,968 Member For: 19y 2m 12d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 17/03/08 06:29 AM Share Posted 17/03/08 06:29 AM Oh dear...This is going to turn into a 100 pager soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XR6T8080 Member 398 Member For: 18y 4m 12d Gender: Male Posted 17/03/08 06:31 AM Author Share Posted 17/03/08 06:31 AM sorry guys I just have absolutely no time for religion of any kind, every time I hear the word 'religion' im offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erko Donating Members 1,079 Member For: 21y 4m 9d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 17/03/08 06:42 AM Share Posted 17/03/08 06:42 AM just about my entire family has served in WW1, WW2, all through the irish stuff as well. They were everything from snipers, commando's, 2 air force pilots, and we even had a Lt. Colonel in the family. My uncle also built a bomb shelter about 5 years before WW2, and was laughed at by the entire street "what the hell are you going to need that for" kind of things. Guess where the entire street was when liverpool was bombedwhats your families military history...oh, this just gets better! You cant be serious can you mate? You think that the serviice of your family 65+ years ago means that you have a clue about current military matters. Give me a break........ha farkin ha. Re your comical USA invasion scenario.1. North Korea has no blue water capability whatsover. No force projection capability at all. At best it can lob some ICBMs in the region. Warheads may or may not work and guidance systems highly dubious. As a nation cant even feed its only populace. They wouldnt even get a chance to get their "invasion" force out of their home ports. No expeditionary war fighitng experience.2. China has very limited Blue water capability. Force projection limited to immediate region only - ie. Taiwan which it could likely take if USA did not intervene. There "invasion force" would barely make it out of littoral waters. No expeditionary war fighitng experience.3. Russia. Give me a break. Read up on Chechnya. Their Navy is a better proposition than Chinas however still no match for the US Navy. Their Army is a shambles, which it has always been and morale terribly low. Wouldnt get a chance to even step ashore. Expeditionary war fighitng experience limited to receiving an arse kicking in Afghanistan.Some things to read up on, key words AEGIS, force projection, supply lines. PS. I also have service in my families history, however wouldnt presume to claim that their service made me an expert on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRIBR Yaris member Member 4,486 Member For: 18y 7m 21d Gender: Male Posted 17/03/08 06:43 AM Share Posted 17/03/08 06:43 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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