AzMahoony Hench, but no longer shredded or tanned. Member 3,343 Member For: 17y 8m 17d Gender: Male Location: Canning Vale, W.A Posted 01/03/08 03:33 AM Share Posted 01/03/08 03:33 AM sh*t.I'll make sure not to ask for advice on the forums anymoreI was 18 when Simon tuned my car to what it is today *touches head*I'm still here, but I'm pretty responsible and I know the limits..I agree with Tab, Stupidity Kills.Going 70 in a 60 zone is speeding.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 7m 20d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 01/03/08 03:49 AM Share Posted 01/03/08 03:49 AM They both tie into eachother.If he was doing 100km/h he would have passed you before you pulled out...so maybe he should have sped up a bit Doing 120km/h is safe on an open highway in a modern vehicle with minimal traffic and fine conditions, yet doing the same on a suburban street is not. A stupid motorist can't differentiate between the two scenarios. Your unfortunate example illustrates this.Saying speed kills is like saying air kills....it's involved in every accident as well. Please don’t believe the speed kills mantra; it was something politicians invented to justify roadside revenue raising and to make the ill-informed electorate think they are actually trying to do something to fix the problem rather than spending money on fixing roads and educating drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7MA61 Member 471 Member For: 17y 4m 3d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 01/03/08 04:26 AM Share Posted 01/03/08 04:26 AM Agreed to few ppl drive to the conditions of the area which surrounds them which is why things end up going pear shaped.I'm also a firm believer in not having traction control or anything other then abs quite simply it gives alot of ppl a greater sense of confidence in thinking that the electronics will pull them out of any situation. It took about a week of driving a T in the wet with TC off all the time to work out how much throttle imput you can use & when.Lets go with Darwin's theory of evolution & survival of the fittest, as said as it is to lose 4 of his mates every single one of them played a role in the incident too. No one told them they had to get in the car, any one of them could of smacked him in the chops and told him to stop being a pork chop.I remember back at school going for a ride in my mates brother SW20 Mr2, I got out of the car not impressed by his driving or the car just vowing never to sit in a passenger sit with him behind the wheel again.I'll take mates for runs in my car hell I do it regularly, but I'll never push anywhere near as hard as I would if I was on my own, and I always say when we get in that if they want me to back off just tell me and I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRIBR Yaris member Member 4,486 Member For: 18y 5m 24d Gender: Male Posted 01/03/08 05:19 AM Share Posted 01/03/08 05:19 AM speeding doesnt kill.... it's the sudden stop that does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillz Three pedals are better then two.. Donating Members 15,637 Member For: 17y 6m 19d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 01/03/08 05:24 AM Share Posted 01/03/08 05:24 AM Well if we're getting testicle. Speed doesn't kill, it's the stop at the end that does. I've never heard of anyone dying at 200kph aside from maybe a heart attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRIBR Yaris member Member 4,486 Member For: 18y 5m 24d Gender: Male Posted 01/03/08 05:49 AM Share Posted 01/03/08 05:49 AM meh it had to be said again... that anti speeding campain ads always piss me off with that slogan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig. Member 563 Member For: 17y 8m 25d Gender: Male Location: Sunshine Coast QLD Posted 01/03/08 05:53 AM Share Posted 01/03/08 05:53 AM No, speed kills, have you ever seen a car accident involving 2 cars which where not moving? If speed kills we'd all be dead!As you sit there in front of your computer you are actually doing something in the vicinity of 1500kph due to the earths rotation.Its always a combination of things which kills on our roads. More times than not fatigue is the killer but its easier to book someone for speeding than for being too tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixfan Flaccid Member Donating Members 2,503 Member For: 21y 6m 24d Gender: Male Location: NOONAMAH, go figure..... Posted 01/03/08 05:54 AM Share Posted 01/03/08 05:54 AM If he was doing 100km/h he would have passed you before you pulled out...so maybe he should have sped up a bit Doing 120km/h is safe on an open highway in a modern vehicle with minimal traffic and fine conditions, yet doing the same on a suburban street is not. A stupid motorist can't differentiate between the two scenarios. Your unfortunate example illustrates this.Saying speed kills is like saying air kills....it's involved in every accident as well. Please don’t believe the speed kills mantra; it was something politicians invented to justify roadside revenue raising and to make the ill-informed electorate think they are actually trying to do something to fix the problem rather than spending money on fixing roads and educating drivers.5 years of flogging up and down the Stuart Hwy at +200kph didn't kill me.Now I have to do it at 130...It just takes so much longer to get wherever I'm going.Speed in and of itself does not and cannot kill,Indeed in the NT after the removal of the open speed limit,the road toll WENT UP.the vast majority of fatalities occurring here occur:A) in outback communities involving rolled utes full of people traveling in the back (utes Kill! Ban utes!)b) due to Poor driving inside populated areas that were already speed restricted ( Population kills! ban population!)c) due to Drink driving (alcohol kills! ban alcohol)Tabs 100% right.speed may increase the severity of an accident, but in and of itself, it can't cause one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-SPEC You are a dead set goose Silver Donating Members 3,968 Member For: 19y 15d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 01/03/08 06:26 AM Share Posted 01/03/08 06:26 AM I wasn't in any way promoting that slogan. I hate that slogan just as much as the next guy.I was just tryna say that people don't die from doing burnouts or doughnuts or dragging their cars to 60 or 80kph, they die when they excessively speed and don't know how to control their vehicle, or they do it in the wrong surroundings. Speeding itself cannot cause an accident and I ever said that it did (I think?). It increases the effects of a crash. Hit a concrete wall at 50kph and you'll be sore in the mornin; double that speed and you'll most likely get crushed.Speeding and stupidity can result in driver error and death, it's as simple as that. CAUSE AND EFFECT. Even people who have driven 50 high powered/performance cars and even people who race cars for a living (Peter Brock is a perfect example) and have countless hours of experience and are professional drivers can make a mistake die when speeding.PB was going too fast on a strech of road not unfamiliar to himself or his co driver and simply made a mistake. He was tired from his previous day's advertures and speed killed him. PB was not stupid, he just made a fatal mistake at the time. Now feast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 7m 20d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 01/03/08 07:04 AM Share Posted 01/03/08 07:04 AM Nah....you just said those two simple words that got my back up Thought maybe you'd been brainwashed, so I do apologise for thinking less of you!As for PB maybe stupid is not the word; but basically he f*cked up and wasn't driving to suit the conditions. He avoids the stupid moniker just because he's a champ How are the CLOSED speed limits going fourfan? It’s cruel to laugh but after all those years of torment...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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