2008 Falcon

[Falchoon]

Well you can take it or leave it, but this is the info I have on some of the visual and mechanical changes on the Orion.

It's about 100kgs heavier than the current XR model, which bring it still under the VE. The front headlights are similar to the current BFII with a flatter bottom to the lens. Can't tell the front and rear bars cause the CP build car doesn't have any yet. Front lower suspension arms are now alloy, same brake options as current, ie 4 pot and 6 pot brembos. Inlet tract is revised and a new plenum had be made which helps remove much of the long inlet tract.

Engine power on the F6 is 290-300kW 600nm (exact figure not yet set), Boss engine is 310-320 kW 600nm. The F6 gets higher flowing fuel injectors (greens) and a higher flowing fuel pump, the Boss gets revised head, different exhaust, cam profile, higher comp, injectors all to try and make up the extra 30 kW or so, the F6 just gets more boost and the fuel to support it. Turbo is unchanged.

Interior is revised, but the build is not finalised yet. A larger?? ICC screen which sits higher up the centre of the dash and the vents are now below it. There is no more gauge cluster as the boost/oil, etc gauges are now in the main cluster to reduce costs. Boss starter button is now down where the tissue box used to be and it has a stop button as well now (go figure ???).

Body can't be seen cause it has masking panels glued to the panels, but the rear tail lights are now thinner (al la VE HSV) and the mirrors have the blinkers in them. Headlights are not HID.

There's more, but I've forgotten as much as I can remember. Sorry no pics... cameras and mobile phones are forbidden.

Cheers

Robin.

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Hmmmm...some new info and some different info to what SpoolMan posted over at FFA.

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.ph...206#post1256206

The GT will get 310kw.

XR8 gets the 290kw motor.

Boss engines stays much the same made in Australia as this is the most cost effective way for FPV.

The cost of assembly of a Boss in Australia is very cheap.

The GT gets a twin throttle body.

I asked about oil pump gears on the Boss to the knowledge of the source of this info, the gears remain unchanged.

The bulge stays as it’s needed to close the bonnet.

The bad news for Boss lovers no Supercharged GT, the cost is too high.

Looked at imports from the States cost still too high.

The Falcon Orion will have a new setup on the front end, the rear end will have a wider track and it’s based on the Territory setup.

Some half decent shockers absorbers for the FPV cars too.

For those of you who haven’t read our F6/XR6T Forum.

Orion Typhoon will be 300 kw from the factory that’s up 30 kw, the turbo will have some slightly smaller parts inside to reduce the turbo lag.The turbo cross over pipe is gone; the turbo compressor housing faces up instead of down.

The pipe out of the housing goes up has like a U turn in it and goes across the front of the car.

This info came from a very very good source they say some things may slightly change but that’s where things stand as of today.

Soon you will see the Orion hitting the roads for testing.

Edited 08/02/07 08:08 PM by Falchoon

[Macktheknife]

If the weight goes up the decline in sales will accelerate.

If Ford Oz deeply believe the straight six will be popular for another decade then they must invest and go to an alloy block.

They should also invest in technology to support Eco-Fuels as that is where we are heading.

Even in performance cars, people are looking for better fuel economy.

IMHO.....

[rednuts81]

Thanks Robin, that is interesting news.

I would say that Ford have gone keyless if there is a stop button

I hope they have gone LED's and also MP3 Audio.

And for the doubters, there are several people posting here that do work for Ford, so we should be happy to get any info from them.

Thanks guys

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I heard it will look like this

[Evil F6]

I heard it will look like this

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Never. Since when do taxis look like sport cars. Looks good though.

[Guest]

hope Ford upgrades the power in the Non Turbo XR6 range, needs to be at least 10kw between XT and XR6 N/A or they should drop the non turbo XR6, its a big call for me to make but there it is.

[Duc21]

Ford need to have the power of the N/A at least equal to/or more than that of the Aurion... minimum of 200kw and the XR even a bit higher....

[Evil F6]

Ford need to have the power of the N/A at least equal to/or more than that of the Aurion... minimum of 200kw and the XR even a bit higher....

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200kw from a 4l with full VVti is pretty average these days. It's really should be making about 220kw and 400Nm and if they ever offer direct injection, 240kw and 430Nm would be easy. With most Jap and Euro's making this sort of power with 3-3.5l albeit a bit less torque, Ford has to move on fast.

[Guest]

got any info on direct injection? what donks use it? any 6 cyl?

[Guest]

http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_107830/printArticle.html

found some stuff, mmmmm, I know some one with a 5 asis CNC, mmmmmm.

[Evil F6]

got any info on direct injection? what donks use it? any 6 cyl?

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My Golf has direct Injection and Audis have it, BMW I believe have it on their new twin turbo 335i, GMH is going to have it soon, look at the next Late model camira update in 2008. Many others are moving to it or have it. Significant power and torque gains and fuel savings.