fordboy1981 Donating Members 2,075 Member For: 21y 10m 26d Gender: Male Location: Sydney, NSW Posted 15/02/08 02:10 AM Share Posted 15/02/08 02:10 AM My old BA turbo made similar power stock... I guess they're just freaks or it's poor dyno operation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat-Tony Member 5,364 Member For: 18y 8m 23d Posted 15/02/08 02:12 AM Share Posted 15/02/08 02:12 AM LOL... looks like the operator has put the intake temp probe up the exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explicit Member 66 Member For: 16y 10m 3d Location: Perth, WA Posted 15/02/08 03:05 AM Share Posted 15/02/08 03:05 AM LOL... looks like the operator has put the intake temp probe up the exhaust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman The Cleaning Dudes Ute Silver Donating Members 1,308 Member For: 18y 8m 2d Gender: Male Location: Bentleigh, Vic, Australia Posted 15/02/08 03:13 AM Author Share Posted 15/02/08 03:13 AM Did they happen to measure how much boost it is making?Yea, it made max power both times around 4.4psiMy first reactions were.. "yea right buddy, its just a high reading dyno"The bloke said he had a stock BA-Turbo with an exhaust/tune (only) on it the other week and it ran 204 rwkw's on all the same settings...I dunnoThing is though, mines a BF 1 (Feb 06 build) I'm pretty sure it doesnt have all the toughened up internals, just some bits n pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6_Tornado F6+300+ Member 940 Member For: 20y 1m 6d Location: In The Ute Posted 15/02/08 03:19 AM Share Posted 15/02/08 03:19 AM Yea, it made max power both times around 4.4psiI dont think So!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headsex Donating Members 2,528 Member For: 19y 4m 4d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 15/02/08 03:32 AM Share Posted 15/02/08 03:32 AM My first reactions were.. "yea right buddy, its just a high reading dyno"Hate to burst your bubble, but keep thinking that. your car given the correct corrections only makes approx 205rwkw which is about right for a standard xr6t BFThe bloke said he had a stock BA-Turbo with an exhaust/tune (only) on it the other week and it ran 204 rwkw's on all the same settings...Yeah its not a settings thing, you cant change any corrections in shootout mode. But placement of the INTAKE AIR probe is what caused the problem.. But last time the INTAKE AIR Sensor did not fall against something hot and cause ridiculously high air temps changing the correction factor to the likes of 1.3I dunnoThing is though, mines a BF 1 (Feb 06 build) I'm pretty sure it doesnt have all the toughened up internals, just some bits n pieces.Bog stock BF xr6 turbo with nothing done.Ok. just done a quick calculation, at 187F intake temps, using this page http://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_cf.htm your car is realistically making approx 205rwkw, with a correction factor of 1.171 (205 * 1.171 = 240)..Go back to him and tell him to run the car on the dyno again, and this time put the INTAKE Air temp probe where the air goes into the filter, Not on the radiator, or somewhere excessively hot 86degreesC is excessively hot to be measured on the IT probe. it should realistically be very close to AT, Air temp of 25 as measured on the dyno sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman The Cleaning Dudes Ute Silver Donating Members 1,308 Member For: 18y 8m 2d Gender: Male Location: Bentleigh, Vic, Australia Posted 15/02/08 03:34 AM Author Share Posted 15/02/08 03:34 AM I dont think So!!!!I've got two pages of tables showing psi readings for every 2k/hr increase This is how the MAX KW LINE READSK's/hr Power(KW) Tractive N Temp Air/Fuel Lambda Petrol VacBoost----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 140k 230.8 5934 83.6 11.5 0.79 4.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman The Cleaning Dudes Ute Silver Donating Members 1,308 Member For: 18y 8m 2d Gender: Male Location: Bentleigh, Vic, Australia Posted 15/02/08 03:38 AM Author Share Posted 15/02/08 03:38 AM I've got two pages of tables showing psi readings for every 2k/hr increase This is how the MAX KW LINE READSK's/hr Power(KW) Tractive N Temp Air/Fuel Lambda Petrol VacBoost----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 140k 230.8 5934 83.6 11.5 0.79 4.4Well that didnt come out as it was supposed to... lol.So whats sorts of air temps should you expect for a realistic dyno run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headsex Donating Members 2,528 Member For: 19y 4m 4d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 15/02/08 03:39 AM Share Posted 15/02/08 03:39 AM I've got two pages of tables showing psi readings for every 2k/hr increase This is how the MAX KW LINE READSK's/hr Power(KW) Tractive N Temp Air/Fuel Lambda Petrol VacBoost----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 140k 230.8 5934 83.6 11.5 0.79 4.4I believe his refering to the power its shown, rather than the boost level your got..Look at that line.. "Temp" 83.6degree's C.. The placement of the intake probe is totally wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headsex Donating Members 2,528 Member For: 19y 4m 4d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 15/02/08 03:43 AM Share Posted 15/02/08 03:43 AM Well that didnt come out as it was supposed to... lol.So whats sorts of air temps should you expect for a realistic dyno run?Look at the bottom line on the dyno graph..AT: 25 IT:86AT = Ambient Temp. Measured by the weather stationIT = Intake Temp. Measured by the intake air temp probe usually placed near the air feed of the air filter.There shouldn't be any more than 3 -5 degree's difference between those values.. And sorry, just looking at your dyno again.. 230rwkw it shows, means approx 200rwkw * 1.171 = 232rwkw.. So you have approx 195 - 200rwkw.. You wont know exactly as I've approx calcualted that correction value based on the 86 air temp.. so its only a approx calculation backwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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