Cooler Comparison

[Process West]

we have put our cooler on a big XR6 ( 640 + rwks , 1000 + hp flywheel) that has run huge MPH which is an indicator of big power . now it is your turn , show us what you got .

once again , we have a car or cars at the clipsal 500 dyno comp ( for all to see ) . come on down with yours.

otherwise your wasting our time

So just to be clear....you are not going to be part of the comparison test.

Kev

[Guest EGOXRT]

I will ask again..

Why dont you throw your hat in the ring and be part of the intercooler comparison test?

Simple question really.

Im sure all of the forum members would love to see back-to-back testing on the same car...

Forum members....do you agree?

Kev

100% Kevin.

Alex, you say you do not have anything to prove on dyno's, well in this industry and especially for this range of cars you have a lot to prove. I see it like this mate, were do people get their cars tuned on the dyno yes? Well I think it only fair that we see some results from some back to back dyno runs. The drag strip is a totally different game, one run shut it down and wait for another go, that I am sure would alleviate some of the heat soak yes/no? I find it hard to believe that a company with so much experience and supposed R&d work wont arise to the challenge at hand, something is a miss..

Edited 19/01/08 06:23 AM by EGOXRT

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Do not turn this in to a witch hunt. The bickering (including between sponsors) needs to stop.

If a company doesn’t want to contribute then so be it. No need for the public flogging. IF the test goes ahead it will be a fair way off, thus allowing plenty of time for contributors to be finalised.

Any more crap and the thread gets locked. By all means continue to discuss the logistics of getting the concept off the ground but keep it civill.

[plazmaman]

100% Kevin.

Alex, you say you do not have anything to prove on dyno's, well in this industry and especially for this range of cars you have a lot to prove. I see it like this mate, were do people get their cars tuned on the dyno yes? Well I think it only fair that we see some results from some back to back dyno runs. The drag strip is a totally different game, one run shut it down and wait for another go, that I am sure would alleviate some of the heat soak yes/no? I find it hard to believe that a company with so much experience and supposed R&d work wont arise to the challenge at hand, something is a miss..

Your experience in automotive performance is not that great it seems, and obviously you have got no race experience . A 1/4 mile pass is far more punishing on the car than any dyno run will ever be . No big race team ever fully tune their cars on the dyno , it is just a guide . 40 degs inlet temps seen on a dyno will most likely equate to well over 80 deg s + on a race track by the end of the 1/4 mile . It is like 4 big dyno runs , one after each other with no break , with a heavliy loaded car , esc if on slick tyres. Just ask any hard core race shop ( likes of C&V , PAC Performance , GAS , CRD etc etc ) and they will back this up , they constantly remind us that they require their systems to be consistant from start to finish . We data log all our 1/4 mile passes . Heat soak at the drag strip has nothing ot do with intercooler efficiency. Due to big heat fluctuations on the 1/4 mile , the dry ice intercooler was invented and now widely used .

we will donate our cooler for any test , but after doing this type of comparision testing for years against others , we have always found that either ... it never gets done properly or a sh*t fight starts which ends with punches getting thrown .

common guys work it out ..... race each other , not manufacturers race each other . Pull your dyno number and post your results , we will all congratulate you .

IN TIME a cooler comparison will happen .

Likewise , anyone requiring information on performance intercooling , please feel free to call us to discuss.

cheers Plazmaman

Edited 19/01/08 07:57 AM by plazmaman

[SCRIBR]

there he is in. Now stop wasting our time and EGOXR & strawberry organise something!

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Well that’s that

Any further posts will only be related to organising the logistics of this testing otherwise they’ll be deleted.

[Process West]

there he is in. Now stop wasting our time and EGOXR & strawberry organise something!

Friggin great...

happy days ahead...cant wait.

Glad Alex mentioned PAC...I have been selling them intercoolers for about 10 years...they know what works at the track and what doesnt. The feedback from them has been invaluable for me.

As far testing procedure goes I would prefer a hub dyno...give very accurate/repeatable results

Kev

Edited 19/01/08 08:37 AM by Process West

[IH8TOADS]

Just out of curiosity why wouldn't you test and establish the flow rate and temperature of air leaving a common 300rwkw XR6T at different stages in the rev range and then replicate this in 'lab' type conditions. Surely you could test the temp and pressure drop coming out as this is what is important right? Obviously the lower the pressure drop and the cooler the air coming out the better as this means more oxygen for burning?

..........ahhh farkit this thread sucks.

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Maybe it needs to be a bit more obvious....

Any further posts will only be related to organising the logistics of this testing otherwise they’ll be deleted.

[hqracer89]

Where will this take place? If its in Melbourne I will be willing to help out.