smicky Go Pies!!! Donating Members 2,852 Member For: 16y 9m 7d Gender: Male Location: Vic Somewhere - Sometimes NSW Posted 12/03/09 03:14 PM Share Posted 12/03/09 03:14 PM (edited) tmac - read above...Mate, if they do anything remotely in the way of an RS it will be an FPV designed bug...When you think about it - Prodrive, Suby STI Rally team, Aston Martin racing, and FPV etc... surely it will be a beast! Edited 12/03/09 03:15 PM by smicky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmac450 Member 1,650 Member For: 18y 2m 20d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 12/03/09 09:27 PM Share Posted 12/03/09 09:27 PM Like I said, if they had any sense, but as we know, they don't.Why spend the money on developing their own (which won't have the hi-tech suspension and diff, etc) when all that has already been done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom XR6 Member 1,460 Member For: 21y 6m 29d Location: Geelong Victoria Posted 13/03/09 05:48 AM Share Posted 13/03/09 05:48 AM This car may be the successor to the XR5 turbo.Its not the successor to the XR5, the XR5 (Focus ST over there), sells in addition to the RS. The XR5 is like the WRX, and the RS is like the STI version.The reason it won't come here yet is because of the price. It would be north of 55k once it gets here, and it would need to be from the FPV stable, and since they wouldn't touch it then its hard for them to badge it as an FPV. that's why they want to wait till they make it here so they can basically take the RS and badge it as their own. They might only add wheels and bigger brakes like FPV do for the Falcons at the FPV plant but at least then they can claim ownership of it and badge it as their own. They don't want to just take it and change the badges, they want some input into its build. The good thing about making it here is that they can get whatever bits TeamRS use and fit them online at broadmeadows. It would be cheaper than if they were to import it too, exchange rates, import duties etc.I know someone who has seen a few of the design sketches for the 2011 Focus and he reckons it looks really aggressive and should look awesome once it hits the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB4C Member 328 Member For: 15y 10m 10d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 13/03/09 07:06 AM Share Posted 13/03/09 07:06 AM Yeah, you're probably right about the RS being rebadged as FPV.Anyway, putting 225kw into the front wheels is quite ballsy.When TRD put 240kw into their FWD Aurion, the front tyres got smoked and handling was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom XR6 Member 1,460 Member For: 21y 6m 29d Location: Geelong Victoria Posted 14/03/09 07:32 AM Share Posted 14/03/09 07:32 AM Yeah, you're probably right about the RS being rebadged as FPV.Anyway, putting 225kw into the front wheels is quite ballsy.When TRD put 240kw into their FWD Aurion, the front tyres got smoked and handling was terrible.It was a Toyota though, they have no idea about how to properly tune a chassis. They make cars for people who can't drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB4C Member 328 Member For: 15y 10m 10d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 14/03/09 11:21 AM Share Posted 14/03/09 11:21 AM (edited) Toyota once made some nice tuneable performance cars in the 90s - supra, MR and Celica. Only problem is, Toyota is too desperate to bail when certain models start returning less profit than expected. They prefer bread and butter cars (I.e. Camry and Corolla). I hope the new RS retails for under 40K (maybe not likely):(1) It needs to be competitive with the Mazda3 MPS (42K)(2) 45K can buy an XR6T, I'd feel ripped off if I didn't take the larger and more luxurious car for similar money. Edited 14/03/09 11:22 AM by never_buy_4cylinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom XR6 Member 1,460 Member For: 21y 6m 29d Location: Geelong Victoria Posted 14/03/09 11:36 PM Share Posted 14/03/09 11:36 PM Yep, but then they lost their balls and started making nothing but fridges.There is absolutely no chance the RS will come in for less than 50k. 55k has been the number talked about, and considering it was made as a rival to the Evo and Sti, not the WRX, then that makes sense.It takes performance way past the MPS in terms of handling, braking, Recaros etc. Its a lot more hardcore than that. Its not meant as an entry level hot hatch, that's what the XR5 is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB4C Member 328 Member For: 15y 10m 10d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 15/03/09 12:10 AM Share Posted 15/03/09 12:10 AM (edited) Yeah, I didn't think it was likely to be that cheap. The RS has the agility of a mongoose - a match for the Evo. But don't underestimate the Mazda3 MPS, my friend works for Mazda and said that thing beat the WRX STI and EVO in a recent rally championship.I find the quoted 0-100 time of 5.9s was a bit underwhelming for the RS (compared to Evo 5.4s / 3MPS 5.6s) , I know it'll make up for it with insane lap times, but I still like my straight line punch. Edited 15/03/09 12:22 AM by never_buy_4cylinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagabond Bored Member Administrator 35,722 Member For: 22y 10d Gender: Male Location: Dé·jà vu Posted 15/03/09 12:52 AM Share Posted 15/03/09 12:52 AM Subaru are no longer in the rally championship.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 6m 30d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 15/03/09 06:44 AM Share Posted 15/03/09 06:44 AM Funkiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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