EXIT Member 41 Member For: 18y 4m 10d Location: Brisbane Posted 19/09/07 01:11 PM Share Posted 19/09/07 01:11 PM Hi Guys,Well my project is coming together at last. I will post a full update later but I've been wrestling with the turbo question for a while so I thought I would throw it out there and maybe some guys who have been there and done that can share their experience?My fully forged engine is almost complete and I am going to be doing the big transplant before Xmas. I have decided to go external wastegate and have bought a manifold to suit. I have been trying to decided whether to use my existing turbo and block off the w/gate or sell it with the motor and gearbox as a complete setup.There are financial decisions there but putting those aside my question is this-What is the absolute very best possible turbo I could use for my circumstances?- which are:It's my daily driver and I do a fair amount of around town.I want lots of power as smooth & responsive as possible.I'm thinking 400+ rwkwI'm the kind of guy for whom enough is never enough for long so I need some blue sky potential ( even if I find I never use it)6 speed manual, Process West plenum/ cooler kit, stock cams, maybe an EBC too.Thanks. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38438-whats-the-ultimate-turbo-for-my-needs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLYT Donating Members 784 Member For: 18y 9m 28d Gender: Male Location: N.S.W, Sydney Posted 19/09/07 01:41 PM Share Posted 19/09/07 01:41 PM The standard Turbocharger, once modified, would do the job nicely to suit your requirement's. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38438-whats-the-ultimate-turbo-for-my-needs/#findComment-576338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP1D Member Donating Members 3,739 Member For: 18y 11m 18d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 20/09/07 01:24 AM Share Posted 20/09/07 01:24 AM Seeing as your happy to use an external gate ( very smart move ) I'd look at some around the 700 to 800hp rating... T04z would be my choice and with clever tuning it should be very streetable and give you 400wkws with around a bar of boost... tuning is the key with this sized unit though, an ordinary tune will make it a dog to drive in low rpm.GT35/40 ext gate is another option to yeild better low down punch Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38438-whats-the-ultimate-turbo-for-my-needs/#findComment-576446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWSEY Member 441 Member For: 19y 4m 28d Gender: Male Posted 20/09/07 03:02 AM Share Posted 20/09/07 03:02 AM NOTHING BUT A TO4Z...... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38438-whats-the-ultimate-turbo-for-my-needs/#findComment-576471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXIT Member 41 Member For: 18y 4m 10d Location: Brisbane Posted 20/09/07 03:54 AM Author Share Posted 20/09/07 03:54 AM RAP1D said: Seeing as your happy to use an external gate ( very smart move ) I'd look at some around the 700 to 800hp rating... T04z would be my choice and with clever tuning it should be very streetable and give you 400wkws with around a bar of boost... tuning is the key with this sized unit though, an ordinary tune will make it a dog to drive in low rpm.GT35/40 ext gate is another option to yeild better low down punchI'm very interested in the TO4Z option.Brad from Spool Imports, who has supplied my rods and helped me a lot with this project, has a TO4Z on his 3 litre/ RB26 head skyline. It makes totally spastic horsepower and I have driven it and it feels no laggier than my stock T. Now I realise this is a poor comparison in many ways but there is some logic to my thinking-His makes 15psi @4000rpm and 20psi by 4500rpm with a 3 litre ( see graph below)A 4L engine will produce approx the same volume of exhaust gasses @ 3000rpm as a 3L makes @ 4000rpm so I figure a TO4Z should make around 1 bar @ 3000rpm- even if that turned out more like 3500rpm in practice-I could live with that and be very happy.Anyone have a dyno graph of a T motor with a TO4Z on it to see how this pans out in the real world? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38438-whats-the-ultimate-turbo-for-my-needs/#findComment-576480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP1D Member Donating Members 3,739 Member For: 18y 11m 18d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 20/09/07 04:25 AM Share Posted 20/09/07 04:25 AM Yeah, there's no reason why a 4lt motor with good flowing manifolds ( as you have ) cant spool a turbo of this size with little lag.I know of a T04z on a SOHC 4lt in an ED that spools well.... I'll see if I can get a dyno print out from it Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38438-whats-the-ultimate-turbo-for-my-needs/#findComment-576486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 18y 3m 1d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 20/09/07 10:38 AM Share Posted 20/09/07 10:38 AM T88h-34GK the mother of all turbos! unlimited power, lots o lag but when it comes on - WOW Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38438-whats-the-ultimate-turbo-for-my-needs/#findComment-576595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoolup Member 3 Member For: 17y 11m 14d Posted 20/09/07 11:01 AM Share Posted 20/09/07 11:01 AM I think the Idea was limited lag :-)A Garret ball bearing T04Z with 0.96 A/R single entry exhaust housing is the go. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38438-whats-the-ultimate-turbo-for-my-needs/#findComment-576612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 18y 3m 1d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 20/09/07 11:08 AM Share Posted 20/09/07 11:08 AM being serious, I think the TO4Z is the go, 3037's are really quick to spool, but it wouldn't be big enough for the 4.0L Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38438-whats-the-ultimate-turbo-for-my-needs/#findComment-576617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXIT Member 41 Member For: 18y 4m 10d Location: Brisbane Posted 26/09/07 11:20 AM Author Share Posted 26/09/07 11:20 AM So can anybody post a dyno sheet using a TO4Z? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38438-whats-the-ultimate-turbo-for-my-needs/#findComment-578675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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