Federal Election 07

[XR6T8080]

Another area that I will blame for hospitals running the way they do is the bloody universities, teaching their professional bullsh*t, using 15 words to describe something that needs 2 words.

that's where it all starts, the universitys and their labour arti farty hippy idealism.

Its my belief that we should apprentice dentists, doctors, etc.

[Buf-Phoon]

A lot of what has been written to-date is about apportioning blame for the responsibility for essential services and goods. Let's take a simple economists view of it all . No state governments, no duplication , Federal law administered by local ( mega councils) will liberate biliions for much needed infrastructure projects like roads, health and education etc. oxy moron.

[XR6T8080]

yes and no, I can appreciate the economy side of, but would you let a ferret faced accountant kiss your baby? Public opinion has a lot to do with the decision, costello is a great treasurer, but if he is prime minister, he's not treasurer, what is he like with hospitals, foreign policy and the struggles in rural australia, these are the problems that will test any new leader, and unfortunately there will never be the right one...

the lesser of two evils...

at the end of the day

15 energex workers sitting around a power pole every hour on their union entitled break is the labour way. <- hows this good for the economy, or anything

putting a C.E.O. in a hospital, that's the liberal / business way. <- this is the smart vote.

abolish STATES all together I reckon, and for christ sakes do yourself a favour and dont waste your vote on rudd the dud

Edited 02/10/07 11:16 AM by wesleyt

[seventytwo]

All governments sux just in different ways,

All I want is for the libs to call the election so I can vote, then go back to work and make money for them to waste, if I see many more of these work choice propaganda adds I am going to go postal.

I vote Democrats or Greens by the way, its a waste of a vote but I cant bring myself to vote Lib or ALP.

[senna_T]

maybe we should call this the "why the liberal party is the only party we should vote for" thread, I mean wow, I wasn't trying to bag every idea the liberal party has, and by the way, did you say that you had seen the human side of costello, wesleyt? or did you just go back to how wonderful john howard is? I'm generally in agreeance with 72 on this, vote greens, or democrats, if they aren't too stupid themselves. CEO's are a good idea in hospitals, but there is the risk that it will become like a business ie whats good for the hospital rather than the patients. In saying that, I don't have a better idea, that's why we have politicians...

wesleyt, its obvious who you are voting for, and I'm not holding that against you, but mate you have to accept that everyone doesn't think the same as you, and they can make their own decision, its called choice pal...

[seventytwo]

Not sure if running a Hospital like a business is a good idea, Ozzy hospital may end up like the US ones if you dont have health insurance you don't get treated.

[XR6T8080]

maybe we should call this the "why the liberal party is the only party we should vote for" thread, I mean wow, I wasn't trying to bag every idea the liberal party has, and by the way, did you say that you had seen the human side of costello, wesleyt? or did you just go back to how wonderful john howard is? I'm generally in agreeance with 72 on this, vote greens, or democrats, if they aren't too stupid themselves. CEO's are a good idea in hospitals, but there is the risk that it will become like a business ie whats good for the hospital rather than the patients. In saying that, I don't have a better idea, that's why we have politicians...

wesleyt, its obvious who you are voting for, and I'm not holding that against you, but mate you have to accept that everyone doesn't think the same as you, and they can make their own decision, its called choice pal...

if your going to vote greens you might as well just vote labour, that's where the vote ends up. What are the greens good for? the false information on global warming that has been disproved by some 50,000 odd scientists worldwide.

Costellos a good business person, that's what australia is, just the biggest business we have. We have the medicare system, and as long as we have medicare, well have reasonable health care in this country. Generally in business you have to keep the customer happy in order to get paid.

[senna_T]

true, but what happens when medicare becomes an expenditure that can be tightened? Does anyone know how costello will keep the customer happy? and in parliament you don't need to keep the customer happy to get paid, you just raise taxes...

[tmac450]

I just haven't seen costello talk about anything seriously, apart from budgets. I don't generally have a tv at hand when question time is on, but from the ones I have seen, he know his stuff about the budget, but what else does he know, stupid jokes that only he and a couple of back-benchers laugh at? I honestly beleive you need more than just money smarts to run a country, you need street smarts also, something I haven't seen from costello

As I said before, it's not the person you vote for, it's the party.

The party is what does the work and creates policy, not the leader. The party leader is the figurehead and not much more.

That said, you say you don't think Costello is a leader, but where does that put Rudd. Surely you can't seriously think he's a good leader? He is constantly being torn apart in question time by all of the Liberal front benchers and in interviews he is incapable of answering anything outside of his prepared and set agenda.

Now for logic's sake look at the parties. Labour is failing to properly govern in the states, federal Labour has no government experience whatsoever and is full of Union officials. Federal Liberal has a proven track record with a team of solid, experienced people. As for the other parties, why bother, none of them have actual policies and are generally only there to grab taxpayer funding for votes.

Oh, and in answer to the communism question, general Union ideals and doctrines follows communist ideals very closely, and the Australian Labour party was actually formed from an early Australian communist party. Check your history.

On the ACCC issue (apart from the ACCC being useless) polotical advertising is exempt from the 'truth in advertising' laws. It is based on a strange little legal loophole where those in the public eye are subject to acceptable levels of slander and propaganda as a part of their roles.

Edited 02/10/07 10:59 PM by tmac450

[senna_T]

hey I'm not saying rudd is the answer here, far from it, if you read my other post, just saying what the mob wants to hear is not the way to run a country