Karma - Lady Reversed Into Me This Morning

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I offered her to pay me $450 and we both walk away...

She was more then happy with that so all is done...

I still feel bad though.

Daz, Zap your words are playing in my head.

:oohwoah:

Ozzie

[TOM1111]

3rd party isnt even that expensive

[Dillz]

Hit her up for 2k, if she had of bought a car that she can clearly see out the back of this wouldn't of happened. I can't stand soccer mums in there Massive X5's, Landcruisers and the like that can barely see over the dash let alone reverse buy these tanks just to make themselves feel safer at the expense of everyone else on the road that has done the right thing and bought a sedan. 4WD's are for offroading, camping, collecting firewood, farmwork and things like that not driving in the cbd. I've lost count of the close calls I've had involving one, just cause they havn't seen me or are blocking my view.

[Superoo]

How come every at fault party in these incidents always seems to have no insurance but know "my cousins' best mates dad" the panelbeater? I prob would have gone insurance but I think you did the right thing not taking her up on her offer of her panelbeater aquaintance.

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  TUFXRT6 said:

Yeah good point, it shouldnt cost you too much to repair & a free cooler always makes the work worth it.

Dont forget to change the under headlight section for the cooler.

Regards

TUFXRT6

You thing the UBP will make a difference with a wogcooler and stock crossover?

Ozzie

[TUFXRT6]

  XR6T3K said:

You thing the UBP will make a difference with a wogcooler and stock crossover?

Ozzie

I have no doubt some one will correct me if im wrong but the under headlight section is the tightest section of the system.

Regards

TUFXRT6

[harvyk]

After been in a similar situation myself, go the insurance route.

I spent 5 weeks been stuffed around by the person whom ran into me. I tried to do the right thing and sort it out with out insurance (only a small scratch which was quoted at just under $600 to repair), the phone alls during the first week where all nice hearted. But by the fourth week it was as if the person (whom had caller id) would deliberatly not answer the phone if I called, and worse I was still without any money and still had a damaged T.

Called up my insurance company and the whole lot was fixed within the week. You pay for insurance for a reason, whilst it doesn't seem the nice way to go don't muck about, get your insurance to sort it out.

[XR6T8080]

  XR6T3K said:

A lady decided to reverse into me this morning as I was dropping my daughter off at school. Her towbar ended up slicing my number plate before wedging itself in my bumper bar.

The lady come out crying, she had a daughter in the car and she was droping off 2 other kids. She apologised and explained that she had no insurance and no money, I got her details and we left the seen.

I went around a got some quotes for the job rangeing from 750 to 600. She asked if her neighbours brother in law (a smash repairer) could fix it and she will pay him in installments.

Ozzie

To be honest mate (im a painter) you could probably screw your number plate back on and you wouldnt even see it from the pictures you have there - assuming that's all the damage. Is the overall bumper in any way damaged? sometimes when they bend because their painted with 2-pak, once they cop a fair knock you may get 100's of little hairline cracks all over it, since 2 pak paint doesnt bend very well.

If its just behind your number plate I dont know why your even worried about it, your lucky she didnt set the air bag off. If you do end up getting it fixed by a panel beater, just use the one she knows, the spray guns they use nowdays dont get spray anywhere but exactly where their spraying, they use HVLP guns which spray at very low pressure (3psi - as compared to 15 on a conventional gun) so that means there wont be spray on your car, if your that worried about it mask it yourself. they only have to mask say 10cm around a small area like that.

and theirs nothing wrong with bogging and doing a spot repair either - that's how its done.

  nang3 said:

with a plate on would you be able to see the hole??? if not, go option 3 ...

otherwise before taking option 1, maybe speak to the bro in law whose the panelbeater, might be a good honest bloke working for a reputable company who will do right by you...... 1st sign of dodginess though and I'd be calling the insurance company

yeah that's right - also $750 is a rediculous quote for that - its a $350 repair - MAX !!! dont even need to remove the bumper, they may be putting a bit on just because its a new car, tell them its not insurance and you are paying cash, or her paying cash, any quote for insurance is instantly doubled if not tripped - this is standard insurance practice, for most small business.

You could fix that with a couple of supercheap spray packs if you were any good, and you wouldnt know. I'd just screw the plate back on.

[sixfan]

  seventytwo said:

Sorry but the way I see it, is if you cant afford to have your car insured then you should not drive a car on the road. A car should not be aloud to be registered unless it has at least Bomb insurance.

Don't be swayed by the chicks water works, go the the insurance company, guaranteed she would be coming out with the big guns if the shoe was on the other foot.

This is exactly right.

[XR6T8080]

  sixfan said:

This is exactly right.

no, that's exactly wrong.

Its not a perfect world - sh*t HAPPENS. and besides which, theres f*ck all damage to your car be a MAN screw the number plate back on and forget about it.

I had a stupid old woman bang her door into mine at bunnings the other day, little bit of paint off, do you see me crying about it? no, what am I going to get my door resprayed for a stone chip? she wouldnt have had insurance either.

not everybody can afford a shiny new xr6 turbo like us and the insurance and luxuries to go with it. lots of people have different circumstances.

Have a heart, dont be a cruel wa*ker. give her a break, shes got kids after all.

let her try to do the right thing. what would you hope to happen if the roles were reversed.

Lots of people on this forum have too much money im sure and I bet a good majority either had mummy and daddy buy the car for them or just rich in general and havnt seen the other side of the coin. (what its like to have no money)

  XR6T3K said:

no she wasn't a MILF... far from it...

and the missus was sitting next to me...

Come boys mind out of the gutter.

Silhoutte6T I agree with you here that's why I want the cash to mod the car.

I could probably even fix it myself while the bar is off when I'm fixing the cooler on.

Ozzie

if you want to fix it yourself, and this is what I would do, while your fitting your cooler, grab some saw horses, pop the bumper on them.

go to bunnings, by a small thin peice of wooden ply, something that is pretty flat and straight, keep it thin so it wont make the bumper protrude. cut the ply to slightly smaller than the number plate surround, well use this for straightening the bumper, get some wood screws, and screw the stuffed up bit of the bumper onto the ply which you will be putting behind the bumper out of sight, put about 6 - 8 screws around the place which should pull it back as flat as it can be. (this may only work depending on whats directly behind that bit of bumper after its screwed back on.)

you'll still be left with the hole, and the screw holes, so you can either use fiberglass filler, or any bog, builders bog will do, its the same stuff as the automotive one.

when you have bogged and sanded the area with the hole, you can use spot putty to fill smaller holes that are too small to re-bog, you go in three steps, bog, spot putty, primer putty to get a smooth finish.

once you have spot puttied the holes, sand and then use primer putty (in a can is fine) on the area assuming you have masked your bumper, you dont need to prime the sourrounding area you just have to sand off the gloss to make the paint stick, but you can if you want to, . If I were you, I'd mask just the flat bit of where the number plate screws on, so leave the original paint that sort of bends around to where the number plate goes, you dont want to tape on that coz you'll see it at the end.

when your taping, to get a perfect line, tape around the corners with blue painters tape, now if you want to prevent bleed through (paint going under the tape when your painting) go and get some selleys no more gaps from bunnings, run a very small bead of that around the edge of the blue tape, then whil its still wet, grab a small paint brush and a bucket of water and wash the wet no more gaps all over the crease on the tape, and off the rest of your bumper. This puts a small amount just under the crease and eventually dries to leave a perfect line when you tear the tape off.

(that last bit was being a bit fastidious and you probably dont need to do it if your masking it where I told you to.)

go and get a spray pack either made up, for about $15 from memory, or buy the off your shelf one at supercheap if they have your colour. After the primer putty has dried for a day or so (you can use a heat gun to speed it up - not too close though or you'll burn it) you can then spray the colour on, give it a light tac coat first, let to dry for 15 minutes, then spray 1 even thicker coat. let to dry for a few hours, and give it one more if you like, if it hasnt covered properly. Then you can hit it with a clear coat the next day, or dry it completely with the heat gun and clear it straight away.

Now when you paint the colour on, it wont match your paint colour UNTIL you clear coat it, being acrylics, that's the way its done unfortunately, you could go and buy some 2-pak paint but the job doesnt warrant all the 100's of $ of equipment you would need to actually do it properly, and you would probably stuff it up if you havnt done it before (and besides the fact you may actually die from a reaction to isosinate inhallation - NO REALLY!!!). These acrylic spray packs are perfect for an amature, there mixed up exactly right, and they work pretty well, you will end up happy as long as you dont plonk too much paint on.

When your sanding you can hand sand it, if you do, use a block and paper, dont use your fingers because you will see finger marks. the best way to do it, is with a random orbital sander, which is 5 times as quick and does a better job. use 800 grit, 1200, 1600, wet and dry , probaly dont need to go higher than 1200 but if your fussy go as high as you want.

Trust me, this done properly and it will look as good as new, taking all of about 4 hours out of your life.

oh, and with the screws make sure their galvanized, so there good in the rain, if you do it that way.

however I had a thought you could make a bigger mess of it that way if you didnt drill holes first etc, the other way would be still to use the wooden ply, but to use liquid nails and some clamps overnight between the ply and the bumper, that way no screw holes, use another bit of ply on the other side (where the numberplate is) to clamp it to the back, should be flat in the morning when you take the clamps off.

you'll also need to cut the final clear finish with a heavy duty cutting compound to bring up the shine and reduce the orange peel, if you do it by recomendations you should wait 2 weeks for everything to harden, however I find that if you do it 3 days after very lightly, you get the same result, while the paint isnt quite hard yet, you'll find over the coming weeks when its been out in the sun and weather, it will get shinier and shinier etc.

Edited 22/09/07 12:18 AM by Dagabond