EZ2CME Formerly XR6NA Member 3,512 Member For: 19y 4m 11d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 24/08/07 02:34 AM Share Posted 24/08/07 02:34 AM So running it in 3rd or 4th makes no power difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groper Member 611 Member For: 18y 2m 9d Posted 24/08/07 08:05 AM Share Posted 24/08/07 08:05 AM (edited) reason I commented on this is... for some reason elite always dyno your cars in 3rd? why? to me it seems that you want the cars to show a higher output than they are really achieving... im sure your customers are happy when they THINK they are getting great results! the standard is to do them in as close to 1:1 as possible which is 4th on both the xr6t manual and zf auto... last time I asked you this you said somthing about not wanting to overspeed the dyno whats the story? Edited 24/08/07 08:07 AM by groper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koppers Member 119 Member For: 18y 3m 24d Posted 24/08/07 08:36 AM Share Posted 24/08/07 08:36 AM Had thoughts on this too, but the utes 306 rwkw puts down consistent 115mph (as high as 116.8 IIRC...) so the power is definitely there.Enjoy the car Luke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPV TRANNY Im the one and only Donating Members 3,557 Member For: 20y 3m 2d Gender: Male Location: In my house Posted 24/08/07 08:48 AM Share Posted 24/08/07 08:48 AM I ran 116 mph with 280rwkw.On 300rwkw I ran as high as 119mph so it is a fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groper Member 611 Member For: 18y 2m 9d Posted 24/08/07 08:48 AM Share Posted 24/08/07 08:48 AM (edited) with the mods listed there is no doubt that this power is achievable on a quick one off dyno pull even in 4th, but that's beside the point... if this power is quoted from a 3rd gear dyno pull as it is, the math says that it wont make 300+rwkw in 4th... not being able to back it up with consecutive pulls or with a slower ramp rate due to heat soak is another seperate issue... Edited 24/08/07 08:52 AM by groper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny G Team Grandpa Qualified Donating Members 809 Member For: 20y 1m 27d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane North. Posted 24/08/07 11:38 AM Share Posted 24/08/07 11:38 AM Fair call, Paul.... but I've always requested my vehicles to be base lined on pulls using the gear closest to 1:1 for consistencies sake. Many tuners may run up support on this being an "accepted standard" - but I'll go back to my beer and the footy. Go the Cowboys..... how good is Matty Bowen??One things for sure though - the ZF is the goods. Good work, and well done on the numbers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul@eliteauto Member 843 Member For: 18y 7m 10d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 24/08/07 11:50 AM Share Posted 24/08/07 11:50 AM groper said: with the mods listed there is no doubt that this power is achievable on a quick one off dyno pull even in 4th, but that's beside the point... if this power is quoted from a 3rd gear dyno pull as it is, the math says that it wont make 300+rwkw in 4th... not being able to back it up with consecutive pulls or with a slower ramp rate due to heat soak is another seperate issue...I dont know why you are getting so worked up about the math!At the end of the day the base line is done in 3rd.......so there is your before figure.The final is in third........hence the difference!Finally the cars are running the times at the drags......end of story!Cheers Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86gav 69 - PSI Donating Members 263 Member For: 19y 6m 17d Location: Gladstone QLD Posted 25/08/07 09:22 AM Share Posted 25/08/07 09:22 AM Paul@eliteauto said: I dont know why you are getting so worked up about the math!At the end of the day the base line is done in 3rd.......so there is your before figure.The final is in third........hence the difference!Finally the cars are running the times at the drags......end of story!Cheers PaulCouldnt have said it better myself Paul!!GAV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groper Member 611 Member For: 18y 2m 9d Posted 25/08/07 10:29 AM Share Posted 25/08/07 10:29 AM (edited) so what do you mean by this... (from the other thread on dyno testing the zf) Paul@eliteauto said: Yep made a mistake we actually do them in third because the dyno can go into over speed in 4th.Sorry for the bum steer.Cheers Paulim still trying to figure this out... Edited 25/08/07 10:29 AM by groper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueboost Member 1,204 Member For: 20y 10m 14d Gender: Male Location: Mackay NorthQueensland Posted 25/08/07 11:38 AM Share Posted 25/08/07 11:38 AM just add my two cents worth for what it is worth,when I run cars with the 6 speed auto, I run it in 3rd, the reason I use for this is the car has 2.7 gears, so the speed in 3rd is very close to 4th in a manual 6 speed, which has 3.7 diff gears,ok I would like to run in as close to 1-1 as possible but 3rd in the 6speed auto is the main gear for the drags, it goes to about 160kph, just like 4th in the manual.this changes when the torque starts getting to much for 3rd, and it smokes the tyres, then I step up to 4th, and also 5th in the manual. this can help a car with a small intercooler to produce a higher figure, but this can be over come by a slow ramp rate. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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