Just Been Snipered

[SavageF6]

On the issue of Sniper using pass-through programming (one step flash using the box as a conduit only), I was told its fully up and running (Wed last week).

At any rate, even if its still two-step, the customer still doesnt need to pay for the Sniper box at all, just the Sniper tune. That's what Ian (originator of the thread) got.

If the two upcoming tuning alternatives also dont require the customer to purchase a box, then that will only leave CAPA that has this requirement.

Edited 05/08/07 07:00 AM by Spruce

[Headsex]

I wasnt sure of the exact problem/issue, but Barry suggested its not recommended programming passthru, however it does work. Either way, these pcm's aint as dumb as LS1's pcms, and its not possible to brick them (sure if you blank them and dont get the first block written which contains the vin number, then any "VIN LOCKED" flash programmer will refuse to program it)

But yes.. Sniper only tune, with no box.. close to $1000 in cost?

Yes, it will leave Capa behind.... and 90% of the existing market that own the boxes..

All I'm saying is.. the problem workshops are faced with is having to carry each products software if they contain flash boxes as the form of programming.. Or your effectively loosing out on half the market..

danny

[SavageF6]

Ah yeah I get ya. I suppose it might be end up being that the workshops will need to keep their CAPA license to cover the market that have VIN locked edit boxes, and perhaps choose one of the alternative tuning options that doesnt require the customer to purchase a box (like Sniper), in order to accomodate the customers that want a drive in, drive out tune.

I still think $1000 for a single tune is exxy, but that's only one example from one tuner. I think shops are generally charging $500-600 for a tune (and a couple variations like valet)? Something like that? At any rate, good on Ian for introducing us to Sniper and bringing out some good discussion (cheers Danny )

Edited 13/01/08 09:05 AM by Adam

[bzerkone]

Heres BPT's pricing on the box, tunes etc..

Falcon BA,BF-AU Sniper Interface (with 1 Bullet) $695.00

Sniper Delta Forces Tuning Software (Workshop Tuners edition) $2990.00

Sniper Commando Tuning Software (Interface and 1 bullet included) $1,300.00

Sniper EA to EL J3 6 position Performance Chip (limited support) $595.00

Sniper 6 position dial cable (for use with p/n 6004)

$187.00

Sniper Bullet (per vehicle VIN access) $320.00

B.P.T. Custom Generic Programs for Sniper Interface $195.00

Custom Dyno Tuning $395.00

Dynometer Time per Hour $120.00

when I get back down to perth I will take my car in and get it tuned with exhaust injectors and valve springs.. see if the band is any smoother.. will post it when its done wont be for a month or so

[01txr]

What is Sniper 6 position dial cable (for use with p/n 6004)

$187.00

And what is p/n 6004

[SavageF6]

What is Sniper 6 position dial cable (for use with p/n 6004)

$187.00

And what is p/n 6004

http://www.norcom.net.au/~bpt/Sniper%20Tuning.htm

Scroll to the bottom; its EA-EL kit.

[01txr]

http://www.norcom.net.au/~bpt/Sniper%20Tuning.htm

Scroll to the bottom; its EA-EL kit.

Thanks Spruce.

[Ian]

I guess it was pricey considering I decided not to get the unit as well. It was surprising that dyno time (2 Hours) wasn't included in the custom tune price but confidence in who works on your car, for me anyway, makes up for any extra cost. Since this workshop do log book servicing as well helps, means not having to flash back to factory tune every time works needs to be done. Since I dont have a lot of free time, convenience of a one stop shop makes all the difference

Ian