SHOWDOWN BACK SLOWER THEN EVER! Member 706 Member For: 17y 4m 29d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 31/07/07 09:52 AM Share Posted 31/07/07 09:52 AM No offence to any Muslims, but I can't stand the minority using a victim mentality against the west for all that displeases them.Personally , he bought a one way ticket , so he got his wish.Visa revoked until furter noticeI agree with you.. also for some reason I don't think he'll be coming back... would you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOB POM Member 140 Member For: 19y 5m 27d Gender: Male Location: Jimboomba Qld Posted 31/07/07 10:09 AM Share Posted 31/07/07 10:09 AM Gawd, talk about hysterical.The risks and threats of terrorism are totally overblown and politicised.Its truly become modern day witch burning.Total hysteria which isnt proportional to the threats.Why doesnt the government apply the same laws to drug lords - the cops know who they are.What about jailing people without charge for 2 wks if they supplied a mobile to a drug lord.The more we persecute the muslims the more likely some of them are likely to become extreme and consider hatching silly bomb plots like the amatuerish Glasgow effort. Fear is the greatest tool polititions have ever found.I am disappointed, but not suprised, at the poll result so far.Most peoples view of the world is formed by the likes of "Bigotry Tonight" or "Half Witness News" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 3m 13d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 31/07/07 10:27 AM Share Posted 31/07/07 10:27 AM sorry, can't agree. Where there is smoke there is more often than not fire.Just because there is no prosecutable charge to answer doesn't mean there are no indications of suspicion :titwave: Anyway........he has a beard so he must be a terrorist ...nuf said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotrana Member 2,586 Member For: 21y 8m 2d Gender: Male Posted 31/07/07 10:58 AM Share Posted 31/07/07 10:58 AM If the Internet chat conversation he had with his cousin are true then the guy is definately connected to terrorism (but in his eyes his does not see it a being terrorism).That 60min interview could have been done alot better by the reporter also. More deeper questions could have been asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboDewd FG Falcon fan! Member 1,452 Member For: 21y 4m 26d Gender: Male Location: Canberra Posted 31/07/07 01:06 PM Share Posted 31/07/07 01:06 PM If the Internet chat conversation he had with his cousin are true then the guy is definately connected to terrorism (but in his eyes his does not see it a being terrorism).That 60min interview could have been done alot better by the reporter also. More deeper questions could have been asked.My question is this -why does the government bend and twist our well-established legal traditions for this Haneef fella and yet is, in comparison, lenient on convicted drug lords, pedophiles and murderers.Its a joke.They (the AFP) handled Haneef pathetically, they should have simply spied on him 24/7 till he did something then pounce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninka Donating Members 1,850 Member For: 21y 11m 9d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 31/07/07 01:19 PM Share Posted 31/07/07 01:19 PM (edited) If the AFP had arrested him, tried him and then found him guilty, I would have no issue at all.The fact that he was arrested and being accused of being a terrorist, with No Facts, with his information all over the media. They arrest him, keep him for 12 days for interrogation, then charge him and 2 days later drop the charges. The AFP fed the BS to the media, to try to make their case, when it has made them look like incompetent fools.It was not the laywers that got him off, the Feds DROPPED THE CHARGES. The Federal government cancelled his visa. He then left the country to visit his 4 week old daughter and wife and is then accused by that moron for immigration of being giulty because he left Australia so quickly...WTF ?If I had been treated like him, I would have given the government a mouthful on TV, I think he was very restrained in his reply.100% Edited 31/07/07 01:20 PM by Ninka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranormal Member 469 Member For: 21y 3m 8d Location: Brissy Posted 31/07/07 08:45 PM Share Posted 31/07/07 08:45 PM "Importantly, there was a computer room conversation, a chatroom conversation, with Dr Haneef’s brother in India on the afternoon before his attempted hasty departure from Australia," he said. "In it, the brother of Haneef says 'nothing has been found out about you' and asked when Dr Haneef would be getting out, to which Haneef replied 'today'."The brother asked whether he had permission to take leave and what he told the hospital. Dr Haneef said he told them his baby was born in an emergency caesarean. The brother told him to 'tell them that you have to as you have a daughter born, do not tell them anything else'."The brother then said not to delay his departure and not to let anyone else use his number in Australia, nor to give it to anyone."Mr Andrews said that federal police had told him before making his visa decision that officers suspected the internet conversation could be evidence that Dr Haneef had prior knowledge of the UK bomb plot. And check out the picture, he reminds me of the smiling Bali bomber. Haneef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixfan Flaccid Member Donating Members 2,503 Member For: 21y 6m 11d Gender: Male Location: NOONAMAH, go figure..... Posted 31/07/07 09:12 PM Share Posted 31/07/07 09:12 PM We are not passing judgment, merely voicing opinions as asked in the initial post. :D....and my opinion is that there isn't enough information to tell either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRIBR Yaris member Member 4,486 Member For: 18y 5m 11d Gender: Male Posted 31/07/07 09:39 PM Share Posted 31/07/07 09:39 PM "Importantly, there was a computer room conversation, a chatroom conversation, with Dr Haneef’s brother in India on the afternoon before his attempted hasty departure from Australia," he said. "In it, the brother of Haneef says 'nothing has been found out about you' and asked when Dr Haneef would be getting out, to which Haneef replied 'today'."The brother asked whether he had permission to take leave and what he told the hospital. Dr Haneef said he told them his baby was born in an emergency caesarean. The brother told him to 'tell them that you have to as you have a daughter born, do not tell them anything else'."The brother then said not to delay his departure and not to let anyone else use his number in Australia, nor to give it to anyone."Mr Andrews said that federal police had told him before making his visa decision that officers suspected the internet conversation could be evidence that Dr Haneef had prior knowledge of the UK bomb plot. And check out the picture, he reminds me of the smiling Bali bomber. Haneefhe's a dodgy man listen to the news today people.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang3 12" member Donating Members 2,107 Member For: 19y 5m 8d Location: Perth WA Posted 31/07/07 11:35 PM Share Posted 31/07/07 11:35 PM Tricky issues like this really annoy me.Firstly the govt will never release 100% of all evidence, findings, testimony and facts to the public in case it impedes any related investigations that might be affected.This alone makes any correct judgement by the public impossible, once you factor in the myriad of privacy laws/policies + leaks from the trial that turn into chinese whisper-like rumours then the whole thing becomes a shambles where public opinion can turn based on one sensationalist headline..Personally I think a Proactive govt is better than a lackadaisical one, even if they do make errors in judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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