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[Turbo6man]

For all those sledging Woolies fuel - they get their fuel exclusively from Mobil - it is not imported crap from Indonesia or anywhere else. And, they don't put any additives in - that's right, not even water.

So I guess if you won't buy Woolies fuel you won't be buying Mobil either eh?

Also, to clear up the misconception about your turbo motors pinging, or suffering predetonation on ULP - what crap! These motors have active ignition control - the timing is adjusted to compensate and you will NOT damage your pistons, valves etc. You WILL suffer a degrade in performance and economy.

[ducatijb]

For all those sledging Woolies fuel - they get their fuel exclusively from Mobil - it is not imported crap from Indonesia or anywhere else. And, they don't put any additives in - that's right, not even water.

So I guess if you won't buy Woolies fuel you won't be buying Mobil either eh?

I have only ever put one tankful of woolies fuel in my bike(it was either that or push it)and after 10 k's it was missing slightly and a slight splutter at take off-When I got home I drained the tank and put in fresh fuel and after a ten minute blat the problem went away-I won't be using it again

[Guest]

Turbo6man I thank you for clearing that up ,Ive been using woolies unleaded (8k) no probs. As if a company would go in to business to stuff up every bodys motor up?I have tried all brands of premium unleaded and the only difference is in my pocket.On a motor bike you are sitting on the frickin motor so you would feel every thing,even the weather makes big diff(I had a bike) but this cars brain is too frickin smart and lets you run on crap.For putting around town Woolies for me!

[Guest tango]

I was never one to buy Woolies fuel and still haven't, but I have just heard a few days ago that Woolies fuel is supplied under contract by BP supplies depot in Brisbane Qld which also supplies Mobil locally and surrounding areas. The manager from our local BP who has just left told me this and now has converted to buying Woolies fuel when convenient.

[KEN 24T]

Ken 'Lord of his Ring' Boyle ( :D ) - stop scaring our new members and give them time to get used to our (your) demented sense of humour!! (it did give me a good laugh though  :lol:  :lol: )

Take it easy on the newbies you say ... novel concept, just crazy enough to work you know!

... nah, stuff it!

Oh, and by the way ... lay of my ring!!

[HellionXR6T]

LOL, your ring is in no danger, me's thinks, well not from here :lol:

Anyway.

I use Optimax religiously, have used it in the ED, AU and the BA XR6 and it's great. Maybe I give it just enough amounts of hoon pizzlings to alleviate any problem with 'gunk' building up. If 'Optimax' is not available, I'll fill up with 'BP Ultimate'. No other fuel enters the tank.

Answer to the original question. There is a s**tload of difference with performance in the NA with PULP.

The ED loved the stuff. I noticed the AU III VCT seemed to retard the performance compensating for the higher octane level so I didn't really care what I used after alternating brands of fuel. The BA, oh yes, there is a difference. If I'm behaving myself, I can probably get an extra 80kms out of a tank of Optimax.

The cleaning properties of Optimax, brilliant, don't think I've ever, ever had a fuel filter that has ever looked the slightest bit grubby. Injectors have always been perfect, have never needed them to be cleaned.

[Turbo6man]

For all those sledging Woolies fuel - they get their fuel exclusively from Mobil - it is not imported crap from Indonesia or anywhere else. And, they don't put any additives in - that's right, not even water.

So I guess if you won't buy Woolies fuel you won't be buying Mobil either eh?

I have only ever put one tankful of woolies fuel in my bike(it was either that or push it)and after 10 k's it was missing slightly and a slight splutter at take off-When I got home I drained the tank and put in fresh fuel and after a ten minute blat the problem went away-I won't be using it again

Methinks your problem may have been IN THE TANK - if you were that low on fuel it is possible there was some contaminent in your tank which caused the roughness you experienced - draining the tank and cleaning it out probably solved the problem not the change of fuel type. Just my theory. In the end you are the only one who can "test" it out by trying a different fuel OVER A FULL TANK and then comparing performance.

[1axr]

BP ultimate for me.

have used it in every car I've had since it's been on sale in the west and never had any problems.

[plonky]

As soon as Optimax was released I used it religiously in the Mercedes. When I bought the WRX it only ever had Optimax and the fuel suited the car perfectly.

My wifes Alfa only uses Optimax or BP Ultimate and I use Ultimate in the Dodge.

I would never consider using a 'cheap' or discount fuel because fuel is a product and a products worth can be determined by it's patronage and price.

Regardless of the type of fuel you use, if you potter around like and old mole then the car will eventually become doughy, and the plugs will foul and the filters will become blocked. As my Dad always said, "You need to blow the spiders out of the exhaust regularly" which means a good long run where the engine is operated throughout the rev range.

The Dodge has a real problme with fouling plugs if it is used for commuting. I found the best way to clear the plugs is an old "John Goss" trick....higher revolutions with lower fuel openings generally works the trick.

I am an absolute devotee of Optimax and Ultimate (same as my engine oils. I only use Shell Helix Ultra in the Benz and the Alfa and BP Corse Plus in the Dodge) Expensive (oil changes every 5k) but cheaper than an engine (almost 18k on the Dodge and I STILL need my INDY alloy heads to bring the HP up to the magical 650)

[mickq]

You work in IT. For Shell?????

I think that if you read my previous post, I said that for you to judge how I drive without knowing me was a bit simplistic. Maybe you didnt understand. You dont know me. Dont pass comment based on no facts.

At the end of the day, I am not saying that if anyone uses your holy Optimax fuel their engine is going to grenade itself. I am simply passing on info that I have learned from other sources, that I happen to agree with. If you dont agree with me, fine, but keep the personal sledges out.

That is all. I have had enough of this topic.

Man you REALLY need to get a grip.

It was a joke about your driving style dummy, just like your original question about whether I thought you drove like your mum was a joke.

Get it??

And what sledging are you talking about? I think you have been watching too much cricket. There was no sledging in my post, and there were no personal attacks on you.

You are over-reacting.

Its not my "holy Optimax fuel". Its just a good fuel out there. And I dont work for Shell or any other oil-industry company. Its just my careful and researched observations based on fact and first hand experience and much research, with careful attention paid to weeding out the crap rumours from the truth.

As you can see from this thread, there are NO examples of people with first-hand experiences with problems from Optimax. This is the trend you will in general see all over the internet and from mechanics if you look widely. Nearly all have said they love it and its a great fuel. This is EXACTLY what I am talking about, and Ive seen the same pattern everywhere: people's FIRST HAND experiences are nearly always unreal (or neutral). But they generally ALL mention RUMOURS of supposed bad experiences. I havent met one person who has, once probed for more information, been able to tell me they have had a problem with their vehicle with Optimax that was clearly caused by optimax and not a low-revving driving style or some unrelated problem. Simple fact. And this thread adds yet another example of that to the long list Ive read over the years.

I think you are right...you clearly HAVE had enough of this topic because your reply was quite emotional and not exactly reasonable.

I dont care if you dont use Optimax...that's your choice. But dont go convincing people who havent used it that it has some kind of general problem when it doesnt. Its the best selling high performance fuel in the country for a reason...and that reason is simply because it is a very good product and it works well. We are all car fans here, and all you are achieving is potentially stopping some people trying what may be the best fuel to get the best performance out of their particular vehicle.

And as you can see, the majority (or possibly even all except for you) of the people who wrote in this thread about their first hand experiences with Optimax agree with me.

QED