Slippery When Wet!

[dule]

ABS is not the one that locks the brakes. You lock them, ABS unlocks them for you. So either the brakes were locked at such short intervals that you couldn't notice they were locking or you had some especially good tyres which don't slip in the wet. Or you didn't hit the brake hard enough to lock any of the tyes so the ABS never stepped in.

[tab]

I think that's what he's trying to say buddy - the ABS did work well by preventing any wheels from locking up

[Jman]

My biggest fear in my ute.. rear end kicking out in the wet.

I remember one time I was driving home from work.

Just accelerating slowly upto 70 at about 60k's the rear end starts to slide out... I recon I was cm's of kissing a taxi in the side.

SCARED THE HELL OUTTA ME!!!!

Gotta love the 1920's rear end technology in the utes ey

[mbjunior99]

Damn, that's not good. Hope you get it fixed up soon.

[truongski]

I think that's what he's trying to say buddy - the ABS did work well by preventing any wheels from locking up

I've used ABS once before in defensive driving when I was 17. its some pretty cool technology. there definitely was no ABS this time. you should feel the brake pedal shudder when ABS has kicked in.

I think my tyres were sh*t too.

[xhute0]

The technology with ABS has improved outa site too. My EB has ABS and the brakes are absolute sh*t while the ABS scares the crap outa me. But my T on the other hand has sensational brakes.

Hard luck about your car mate. hope you get it fixed soon.

Don't forget that insurance will also cover the steering damage so it may well be worthwhile just giving them a call.

[truongski]

Thanks lad, I think I'll just cover it myself. Don't want to get a bad rating yet. I'm only 23. So I'll just have to eat baked beans and 2 minute noodles for a couple of months.

just had a look under the car and found the rim is f'ked too... dammit.

oh well time to get 9.5" wide ones for the back

[xhute0]

I recently made my first insurance claim (that's right, I'm 30+ and just made my first claim!) thinking the same. I'd blow my rating and the excess would be as much as the claim itself. Pleasantly surprised to find out that my rating will stay the same and the excess was f*ck all compared with the damage. To top it off, if I did the repair thru the insurance company the panel beater said there was a few other things he could do for me, such as replace the rear bumper with a new one rather than a second hand one etc

[Iconic Bionic]

ABS was introduced for bad drivers. Those who are not educated in advacned braking texhniques, such as threshold braking. Infact other techniques such as threshold braking will bring any vehicle to a complete stop in a shorter distance than ABS ever can.

When I say bad drivers, most ordinary drivers freak out and apply the brakes as hard as they can thinking that this will bring there vehicle to a safer and shorter stop, though in reality the braking distance is significantly increased. Tyres that are locked up create intese friction between the tyre and the road surfce, which makes the tyres slippary and slide accross the road surface. ABS helps prevent this by preventing and detecting a locked wheel and allowing it to continue its rotation and maintian adequate traction with the road, so that you can 1) maintian your steering and potentially avoid the colliison, and 2) stop in a much shorter distance than locking your wheels.

We all freak out and will lock our wheels at some stage. It is then important to recognise that you are now beyond the vehicles braking capabilities and must infact release the pressure on the brake peddel, which is very hard to do when your about to run into something or someone.

Edited 26/06/07 10:55 AM by Iconic Bionic

[truongski]

learning to stop properly comes down to driver training. yes ABS is an excellent feature, but like some of the member have said before, it doesn't work in all situations. I think driving training is probably the key for less accidents on the roads.

I'm pretty certain, that 95% (maybe more) of the learners have never been taught how to stop in an emergency. I know I wasn't. all they are taught is to go forwards and backwards. when I had me defensive driving course I learnt more then the instructor could actually teach me.

what I'm trying to say is that we need more driver training in this area. learning to stop properly could be difference between your life or someone elses.