Speeding Fines

[XR6T8080]

Hi,

I just watched a current affair, and they had a topic on speeding fines and how police are always breaking their own rules to fine us.

I.E. when a radar is used the officer using it must have the police marked car with the sirens on beside him on the road

the camera cannot be used on a gradient (incline/decline) road, around a bend, or hidden behind trees etc. must be parked on the side of the road.

There is a apparently a government document that is The Police official guidelines to policing speed. I think we need to get ahold of this document and all have a good read.

I put this post up because apparently its hard to get, so I thought somebody would be able to find it and spread it around. It is part of the public domain so we arnt breaking any laws by spreading it around either, as with any government legislation.

Can anybody get ahold of this document, and maybe put it on PDF so we can email it around, im happy for somebody to mail it to me and I'll PDF it and email it to everybody who wants it.

Wes

[Muzza]

I hope the judge I got next Friday has a copy of it........

Muzza.

[BUL11E]

let me see what I can do through work to get my hands on it, if it is legislation I should be able to find it.

[tab]

Been naughty muzza?

[tab]

...and forgot to mention that operational manuals are not "public domain" material. And if you do come across it I don't think posting it up here would be a good thing for the sake of the site.

[ZAP]

It is called the SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) and they are tough to get.

I have a few pages that pertain the the police operation of radar in vehicles. I have been trying to get the bits on LIDAR (laser) and mobile cameras. I was thinking of trying through the Freedom of information act, but I am sure others have tried that already.

It would be nice to get close to a highway patrol officer and a xerox.

[tab]

There was a FOI application denied here in Qld from memory - makes you wonder why they have to be kept secret

Have seen a hardcopy before, but there's not a great deal in it, allot of shoulds and shouldn’ts - not many do's and don'ts.

[ZAP]

The bits I found interesting in the NSW one was that a cop should not book a driver using a radar to measure speed if there is another vehicle within 200m travelling in the same direction.

[tab]

Yeah because that never happens

A quick google gives part of the NSW SOP on boostcruising:

http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index....showtopic=47061

And the FOI rejection up here in Qld I was waffling about before:

http://www.oic.qld.gov.au/?p=30&DecisionId=938

[RHR]

Wes

yes in order to use lidar(officer out side of car) (lazer) they must have the car on the side of the road with LIGHTS only. They also have to be at approved locations. Assessments are made on the locations by senior officers.

An officer can also use the lidar inside the car. He still is alowed to sit in a hidy hole in the car and shoot the lazer through an OPENED window of the police car.

They can also use it on an incline/decline but it depends on how steep it is.

The bits I found interesting in the NSW one was that a cop should not book a driver using a radar to measure speed if there is another vehicle within 200m travelling in the same direction.

This is correct however police can issued two types of infringement notices. Radar Infringement Notice (RIN) also can be used with lidar.

Traffic Infringement notice(TIN)

Police can not issue a RIN if there is another car travelling in the same direction if it is within 200m however Police can do an estimated speed of the car they are looking at and use the radar as a back up and in this case they would issue a TIN