Added Power And Stability Contral

[Jonno]

I have a stock BF XR6T with 11,000Km on the clock.

I am interested in increasing the power with an edit, but want the stability control to maintain its full functionality.

So my question is - will the stability control be able to cope with the increased power from an edit ?

Cheers - Jonno

[Nizpro]

Yes Jonno the Stability controll will continue to work as std with zero effect in its funtionality

[Iconic Bionic]

Mines a BF T with 10,000k's and the stability control is an excellent feature, but the edit does not change anytihng relatd to it. Other mods as well will not effect it, just make sure you get the edit as it makes all the difference.

[Ford_Power]

Yes Jonno the Stability controll will continue to work as std with zero effect in its funtionality

Hello... now I have always wondered this... perhaps you could explain this to me if I am incorrect....

The stability control uses the functions of the ABS modulator to apply individual brake pressure to each wheel and also uses the function of TCS to reduce power to the driving wheels if need be.

Now, I can see how the DSC would not be affected in a EDITed if you were off the throttle and had to do a rapid steering maneouvre as only the individual braking would come into effect... but what if you went in too fast into a relatively sharp sweeper (individual braking part now active) and then also applied more throttle to power out? (TCS part active)

EDIT** In reading the above sentence it would seem that the TCS and DSC operate independent of one another... in which case, yes, the DSC would not be affected...

LOL, lets just discuss the TCS then...

Now if I understand this correctly (and I could be wrong) there must be a table somewhere for the traction control part of ABS/TCS system which states something like how much timing to retard given the enigne rpm when wheelspin is detected. I'm also certain that this table was designed around the stock engine output. E.g. if wheelspin detected @ 2500prm, take out 25degrees of timing - which may work fine for a stock motor, but with a big HP engine, -25 degrees may not make much difference and is not enough to curb the wheelspin. (I do know that the rear brakes are also used, but only at speeds < 40km/h so as to not generate excessive brake temperatures).

I'm not sure about the BF's, but my EDITed BA has the "P2106 ETC Forced Shutdown" 'fix' and yes, the TCS doenst shut itself off anymore, but neither does it do anything useful to control wheelspin!

I remember reading a thread somewhere that you said you had the TCS fully fixed, even on HUGE Hp cars - Brian's car (BCL) was the case in point....

Now I know you don't want to divulge trade secrets, but if the EDIT S/W doesn't have access to this area of the PCM, then how can you actually fix the TCS? (does the edit have access to this part of the PCM??)

Cheers,

Ross

Edited 21/06/07 12:29 AM by Ford_Power

[BFHOON]

the way it was explained to me is the dsc only works when the brakes are on.

try this,get on some grass and drive in an arc then hit the brakes, you will go sideways as the weight moves forwards giving more traction to the front wheels than the rear with the breaks on, dsc will correct the spin under brakes. once the beake is off dsc is off too.

same as driving down a steep dirt hill with the brakes on it will not slide sideways.

[Venom XR6]

the way it was explained to me is the dsc only works when the brakes are on.

try this,get on some grass and drive in an arc then hit the brakes, you will go sideways as the weight moves forwards giving more traction to the front wheels than the rear with the breaks on, dsc will correct the spin under brakes. once the beake is off dsc is off too.

same as driving down a steep dirt hill with the brakes on it will not slide sideways.

Maybe I'm not reading this properly but DSC works anytime wether the brakes are on or off. It would be pretty useless if you went round a corner too fast under power and it oversteered. In this situation it will brake the appropriate wheel to keep the car heading in the direction the driver has pointed the car via the steering wheel, with info from the steering angle sensor. It doesn't just work when the brakes are on.

[EZ2CME]

I thought it worked all the time too