A Very Scary Mix

[harvyk]

a common theme I see in these types of threads is the amount of people who say they know the capabilities of their car, and of their ability.. Knowing your abilities, and the cars ability is all well and good on a race track, however, on the street there are simply far too many variables which I believe cancel out most peoples ability.. Even a super car driver, who knows his stuff, and races on a street isn't safe.. no matter how well they know the car and their abilities. Unfortunately it's not necessarily YOUR ability, or your cars ability, but other road users ability too. Not to mention roo's, potholes, and other unforeseen dangers on the road. I know it's slightly off topic, but it's something I thought was worth mentioning.

The problem isn't that ppl think they know (or infact really do know) the limits of their car and their ability. The problem comes when someone pushes things to the limit and then the unexpected happens.

It's the roo at the side of the road, the kid blindly chasing the ball across the road, or the car pulling out unexpectly which causes the problems.

About 10 years ago I was once taken for a trip around the block in my mates new skyline. We didn' see much below 130km/h in suburban streets with kids playing, on one corner he even put the car into a drift. He had beautiful control of the car during the drift, but if anything had happened we would have collected the car / kid / roo and there would have been nothing my mate could have done about it.

It's these moments which cause the problem.

Along with driver training, showing people the limits of their car (and their ability) ppl need to be shown the unexpected and the result. (Maybe as part of the driver training days get someone to hide behind the gate as people are leaving and through a pink elephant at them)

[45T-XR]

Atleast this thread indicates the general intelligence of the people that populate this site and hence drive these highly modified vehicles, in that we all agree that off the street training is a good idea, both to increse our skills in handling a car on the street, and to remove the urge from your system, I mean, if you have the opportunity to race your car around in a controlled environment regularl then it remeoves the urge for when your on the street.

cheers

[tmac450]

Similar to if your missus puts out more, you're unlikely to look elswhere to satisfy your urges

[XR06T]

god damn that was pretty close!! bet you couldn't park the car in that gap if you tried!!

[dingah2]

There appears to be a plethora of very law abiding and responsible folk here which is gratifying.

If we are all pottering down to the shops at or below the speed limits and never behaving in a manner likely to raise concern then why are we not all driving Camrys and Avalons?

The purchase of an XR6T is in itself an expression of intent....be honest!

Dingah

[tab]

So if I buy a gun does that make me a mass murderer? Or a condom a rapist? Or some fertiliser a terrorist?

Struggling to follow your logic sorry.

[SCRIBR]

yes.. yes it does tab.. especially if its anybody from this forum

[dule]

There appears to be a plethora of very law abiding and responsible folk here which is gratifying.

If we are all pottering down to the shops at or below the speed limits and never behaving in a manner likely to raise concern then why are we not all driving Camrys and Avalons?

The purchase of an XR6T is in itself an expression of intent....be honest!

Dingah

Good idea, let's all buy Camrys, 4 cylinder only, V6 is too fast.

Let's all be honest, we all brake the law every now and then, but that doesn't necessarily make it dangerous. It's going too far, to far over the limit (I don't mean speed limit) that does.

[Felix]

Sure I have only had my ute for just over a month but I got into ALOT more trouble when I owned my corolla. I took it upon myself to do a defensive driving course, in my own car (the corolla) and after that I really changed the way I drove, when you can push your own car past the point in a controlled envionment and see the results, changes your way of driving imo.

All the hassel I had to go through to get a gun license then to purchase the gun, I was told, because it is a weapon.... it can kill.... you need to go through all of this. I think education is the key, as a driving license is as much of a weapon imo.

Maybe get kids driving at school, but limiting them to low powered cars isnt going to do much. Also how many dinged up camry's do you see plenty of bad drivers out there who wouldnt be classes as young hoons.

Felix

[nang3]

I really wish the fuzz would forget or at least put the word hoon on the backburner for a while and concentrate on all the mofo dipsh*ts that can't drive to save their lives!!!!!

the people who dont possess the incredible skills needed to negotiate a merging freeway on-ramp, or even a simple 2-1 lane merge

the people who get flustered in a roundabout and have no idea when or which way to signal

the people who are 2m from the white line and hit the skids when the green light looks the tiniest bit orange

the people who drop to 50% of the limit when the sky looks damp instead of adjusting for the conditions realistically

and the 100's of other stupid, idiotic and dangerous driving mistakes I see every farken day to and from work.. IMO its much more dangerous than me accelerating from the lights a bit faster than the average commodore