hypnodoc It's All In Your Mind Gold Donating Members 2,198 Member For: 21y 7m 10d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 15/05/07 09:58 AM Share Posted 15/05/07 09:58 AM This arrived via email a day or so ago.It looks like GMs finance arm that was propping them up have shot themselves through the foot big time. Maybe they might sell out to Toyota for a dollar. It doesn't surpise me, I spent all of feb in the US and everybody was moaning about how bad things were getting, apparently bankruptcy is running 80% higher than it was during the great depression, doesn't auger well for Ford or GM. Then again looking at the cars they turn out over there compaed to the Nissan and Toyota imports its no wonder they are running a losing race, their average sedans are way below avarage compared to what we get. G-MAC, 'Sets Us Up' the Mortgage Bomb; $1 Billion Losses From One Firm This QuarterMay 3, 2007 (EIRNS)--Some investment banks' estimates of $20 billion in total losses in the mortgage-backed securities markets, were exposed as far too low; one major firm alone lost nearly $1 billion in just the first quarter of 2007. The three top credit-rating agencies all downgraded their outlooks for Residential Capital (ResCap, part of General Motors Acceptance Corporation or GMAC) to ``negative,'' after the Bloomington, Minnesota mortgage company acknowledged its mortgage losses on May 2, according to the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. ResCap lost $910 million, and is laying off 1,000 employees. GMAC, which used to be the financial engine pulling up GM's auto operations, is now transformed by the mortgage collapse into a big money-loser, half-owned by GM and half by the huge Cerberus hedge fund. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/35011-gm-dead-in-the-water/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRIBR Yaris member Member 4,486 Member For: 18y 11m 19d Gender: Male Posted 15/05/07 10:02 AM Share Posted 15/05/07 10:02 AM ... and macquarie bank's net profits up 60% to 1.5 billionlooks like the are either in the wrong business... or they are doing business wrong! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/35011-gm-dead-in-the-water/#findComment-532833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_phantom Member 141 Member For: 18y 8m 21d Gender: Male Location: NT Posted 15/05/07 10:05 AM Share Posted 15/05/07 10:05 AM Not good.Competition is vital, means we get better cars.It would be a huge loss to all of us if one of the big american manufacturers were to go down. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/35011-gm-dead-in-the-water/#findComment-532834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest newl Guests Posted 15/05/07 10:19 AM Share Posted 15/05/07 10:19 AM Combine this with Chrysler being sold off and things aren't looking all that crash hot. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/35011-gm-dead-in-the-water/#findComment-532842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboDewd FG Falcon fan! Member 1,452 Member For: 21y 11m 2d Gender: Male Location: Canberra Posted 15/05/07 10:31 AM Share Posted 15/05/07 10:31 AM I wouldnt fret because the US govt would ensure that a company like GM wouldnt go under, too much national interest and pride is at stake.Remember after 9/11 the govt ensured the airlines wouldnt go under. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/35011-gm-dead-in-the-water/#findComment-532850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest newl Guests Posted 15/05/07 11:48 AM Share Posted 15/05/07 11:48 AM pfft..governments should keep their noses out of businesses business. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/35011-gm-dead-in-the-water/#findComment-532908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFXRT6 Silver Donating Members 687 Member For: 19y 2m 20d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 16/05/07 01:56 AM Share Posted 16/05/07 01:56 AM From what I understand even though the numbers look bad, they are actually improving.I believe GMAC have just about cleaned up the insurance & employee sections of the business. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/35011-gm-dead-in-the-water/#findComment-533067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom XR6 Member 1,460 Member For: 22y 1m 13d Location: Geelong Victoria Posted 16/05/07 09:08 AM Share Posted 16/05/07 09:08 AM Ford Credit made a $250 million dollar profit in the first quarter, so they went through this unscathed. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/35011-gm-dead-in-the-water/#findComment-533283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antisocial Weird Member Member 1,347 Member For: 22y 4m 6d Location: ACT Posted 16/05/07 01:02 PM Share Posted 16/05/07 01:02 PM newl said: Combine this with Chrysler being sold off and things aren't looking all that crash hot.Especially if its the same Cerberus that bought Chrysler, which co-owns this albatross with GM.... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/35011-gm-dead-in-the-water/#findComment-533444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypnodoc It's All In Your Mind Gold Donating Members 2,198 Member For: 21y 7m 10d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 17/05/07 01:54 AM Author Share Posted 17/05/07 01:54 AM I think that may have been the case until Cerebus went down. Perhaps they were just hesitant to let anyone know until there was no option. Toyota wll always snap them and their debt up for $1 or so. I also don't think the US govt is in a position to bail even themselves out after the cost of the Iraq war. It is more than obvious with Chrysler Ford and GM that the US car makers are on their knees. TUFXRT6 said: From what I understand even though the numbers look bad, they are actually improving.I believe GMAC have just about cleaned up the insurance & employee sections of the business. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/35011-gm-dead-in-the-water/#findComment-533554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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