Cold Air Induction

[Guest jason]

I agree with HARASN.

Ford has spent buckets of money on developing the airflow cooling requirements for the Turbo. If you block any air coming into the front of the car (which is critical), your looking for trouble. The opening thru the grill is to assist engine radiator (coolant) cooling.

To IASCHIMDT.

Ford don't (and won't) do hot weather testing on the Gold Coast or around Brisbane because it doesn't get hot enough to create high temperatures required. Why do all manufactures go to the NT?, because the weather is hot with a constant humedity (dry season).

[GOLDIE]

To jason I am not saying that fords testing is not right what I am saying is that by fitting this air intake it has not affected the cooling of the car.And as for the not using an oil cooler harasn stated in one of his earler post that ford have devolped one for the xr6 turbo.

Colder intake air and cooler engine oil releive pressure on the cooling system.this car was driven on the limits of the road conditions for four hours and did not run any hotter than it ever did with out the air intake.

[Cam]

I am not an expoert in this area so I am sitting on the fence on this one but....

If the car in standard form can withstand NT temeratures and the Gold Coast is not hot enough then wouldnt that mean that what ian has done to his car is actually safe -due to the large dedundancy in the system to start with (as long as his car doesnt go to the NT)???

[NT TURBO]

iaschmidt, one question what is your estimate of the temperature reduction of the combustion chamber, when intake air temp is reduced from 25 to 19 (absolute best case scenario), bearing in mind the radiator restrictions to achieve this.

I may be wrong but I had assumed not much difference as the air will be denser and the explosion may even be hotter??

[Guest IMTRBO]

WE HAVE TWO SIDES HERE ,,, One who says that blocking air will effect the engine which I 100 percent agree,, and another is high air intake. Altough geographicly the ss induction kit is a great position for air intake not practicallity,, My question to is iaschmidt how much did you all up spend and what gains you got I have a good feeling not enough and high risk factor I think you should check out the APS web site just incase you have not heard of aps www.airpowersystems.com click on products then select ford check out the air intake system these guys now as there company name states look closly were there air intake is under the headlight not infront of the DAMM radiator...... seriously dude try to take back all that plastic it prolly slowing you down more than anythin dude too much weight

[GOLDIE]

Just posting the dyno sheet for our with exhaust and than cold air induction

[harasn]

HHmm!!! dont remember saying ford developed a oil cooler for the T. Pretty sure I said it was looked at but not done due to temperature concerns! In all due respect to the owner of the car in question here and the testing he has done, but I'm unaware of the results of the same tests he has completed with these mods before the mods were done! the difference would be interesting! Aside from that its not really a repeatable test in the real world as almost no 2 days are ever alike. We have controlled environments to test in where we can control all variables!

Each his own! his car but not ever going to do to mine!

[Guest DEVO]

For what it's worth, the contentious issue appears to be that the deflectors are dangerous as they direct cold air away from the factory radiator/cooling system.

Has anyone ever considered mounting the induction kit down low, level with the bottom pf the spoiler or something?

In my opinion, this would allow for a straighter path from intake to airbox, take the intake away from the engine, where ambient temperature would surely heat the plastic moulding, and put it rishtout in front where it is in the direct path of the airflow.

The induction kit is fairly long and thin, so wouldn't stick out too much and might give it that "Super tourer" look

[Cam]

I know its been said the the SS Inductions intake is not worth having however....

If the intake was used without the deflection plates that wouldnt have a negative effect on temeratures woudl it?? (not saying whether it would help performance - only talking heat.)

[GOLDIE]

Just to clear a few points up on hot weather testing and as to wheather the gold coast is suitable for testing.I have stated before that I am a ford mechanic. 23 years experance,11.5 years at the same ford dealer ship,1989 top ford tech. for northern region.This dealer ship was selected to be part of the hot weather testing for the than unreleased r134a a/c gas systems myself and another mechanic were selected to do the fitment and year long testing of the system in 10 selected EA falcons.So to answer the question to hot weather testing it is done in this region of australia.Although I was not involved in the testing of battery temps it was also tested on the coast as well due to high number of boiled batteries recorded here.As a side not the amount of air going in BA uis a lot more than the EF,EL front air dam and they didnot have an overheating problem. no grill at all on these.The vechiles tested for the a/c were 10 taxis which during the test each covered 200,000 kms.