Turbo Is Fruit Caked!

[IH8TOADS]

its probably not the change interval but oil starvation to the turbo. Most likely the small mesh filter on the oil feed line to the tubo is blocked or at least partially? Best you clean this when the new turbs goes on. Hiddeous did a very useful write up on this. Ninka will also be able to help with advice too I'm sure, as these guys are pretty handy in the garage. Cheers BH

[apac77]

thanks for the msg IH8TOADS..... still waiting for my loan to be approved so that I can afford to pay for this turbo I gotta fix :(

its probably not the change interval but oil starvation to the turbo. Most likely the small mesh filter on the oil feed line to the tubo is blocked or at least partially? Best you clean this when the new turbs goes on. Hiddeous did a very useful write up on this. Ninka will also be able to help with advice too I'm sure, as these guys are pretty handy in the garage. Cheers BH

[gsheils]

thanks for the msg IH8TOADS..... still waiting for my loan to be approved so that I can afford to pay for this turbo I gotta fix :(

I noticed on shut down you could hear my turbo winding down. It progressively got louder and more coarse sounding until at 80000k it let go-sounded like a circular saw. My car was nearly 3 months out of a 12 months extended dealer warranty (4 years total warranty from date of manufacture in total). I approached them to fix it under warranty as I have never abused the car and always had it serviced by them, to which their reply was they would check with Ford. To my surprise it was accepted. Now the second turbo has let go 3 months into its life. You should really give things a go with your dealer you never know what they will do??? A car even 4 or 5 years old with low km's should not have its turbo blow-especially if it has been serviced regularly.

[XR06T]

sounds like you REALLY need to clean the oil supply screen g shiels..

check out the how to that hiddeous wrote up.

perhaps this screen was the cause of all sixfans problems?

[01txr]

Just ditch the screen altogether as if you try and clean it looks like it is clean, but then shine a bright led light through it and you will find it is still clogged pretty badly.

I spent ages with cleaning solution and compressed air trying to remove the blocked gauges, and in the end it was still half clogged.

I fitted new "O" rings on to the filter and these fowled on the step up insde housing when trying to push it in and the filter snapped. (very flimsy and $64 from ford and you may have to order one in) .

I have run mine now for about 8000 klm's with no problems.

Mine also started to get hot and make a bit of a dry sound shutting down but now it is all fine and lucky I checked it when I did as the same would have happened to me.

Is your exhaust turbine housing undamaged?

If so would you sell it to me, that's if you are purchasing a whole new turbo.

PM if you do.

[XR06T]

have you scrapped the screen altogether?

what are other peoples take on this?

also does anyone know approx how much the whole screen setup would be from ford? im talking complete replacement of the whole doovalacky..

[Ralph Wiggum]

have you scrapped the screen altogether?

what are other peoples take on this?

also does anyone know approx how much the whole screen setup would be from ford? im talking complete replacement of the whole doovalacky..

IIRC th screen is between $75 and $80 from ford...

[gsheils]

Just ditch the screen altogether as if you try and clean it looks like it is clean, but then shine a bright led light through it and you will find it is still clogged pretty badly.

I spent ages with cleaning solution and compressed air trying to remove the blocked gauges, and in the end it was still half clogged.

I fitted new "O" rings on to the filter and these fowled on the step up insde housing when trying to push it in and the filter snapped. (very flimsy and $64 from ford and you may have to order one in) .

I have run mine now for about 8000 klm's with no problems.

Mine also started to get hot and make a bit of a dry sound shutting down but now it is all fine and lucky I checked it when I did as the same would have happened to me.

Is your exhaust turbine housing undamaged?

If so would you sell it to me, that's if you are purchasing a whole new turbo.

PM if you do.

Not sure about the exhaust turbine housing-the car just went back to the dealer today. Once they get back to me I will let you know. What are the potential problems of ditching the screen? Probably not 2 blown turbo's I bet!!!

[01txr]

Well I reakon if I had let mine go any longer with the block filter it would have blown the turbo for sure.

Buy not using the screen filter I have save it.

It has had no problems at all and I now know it isn't going to starve for oil due to a blocked filter.

When you look at it the oil passes through a mesh screen from pickup then passes through the oil filter so what harm will it cause anyway as it is already filtered.

From what I had inspected there was not much dirt in the filter bar what was stuck in the gauzes.

I feel it would not harm the turbo in anyway as it would just pass through and return to the sump.

If it was a bush bearing turbo it may cause a little bit of minute scouring wear.

The amount of dirt that came out of the filter would be lucky to cover half a 5c coin in one layer spread over the coin(that was with a life of mineral oil which the 2nd owner could not tell me what type was used as his mech did his servicing, probably the cheapest sh*t on the shelf).

And that was with 80 000k's on the clock.

It has done 89 000k's now with no problems.

Car is not stock either.

Last dyno it maid 270rwkw, it is fitted with Nizpro valve springs, Nizpro hi flowed injectors, walpro fuel pump, flash tuned.

It had a std exhaust with center muff removed at time of that dyno.

I have fitted a 3.5" stainless X-Force exhaust system which has made a big difference.

Don't know current power figure's yet as I want to get a few things done before getting it retuned.

If you decide on not using the filter screen I suggest the use of a high quality filter like Purolator or K&N (yes they do a oil filter for about $25), change everytime you do oil change, and use a good oil perferrerbly synthetic.

If you can't get away from not using the small filter at least look at using a after market inline filter like system 1. Have it plumbed into the line in a easy to access place, this way you can easily check regularly and will have a larger filter surface area so won't be such a risk like oem filter.

Don't forget to ditch the oem filter though.

Just say your engine destroys a big end / main bearing and that grinded metal gets through the low quality oil filter that your mechanic fitted it would clog the tiny mesh screen filter quicker than you could say oh sh*t and then it would be bye bye turbo as well.

The other thing I feel is a problem is when the lifters wear out people will think to put a thicker oil in to make them quite, this will have flow problems with the path to the turbo with the oem mesh filter fitted and will cause turbo failure's especially if the filter is partially clogged.

I may lose 10 000k's on turbo life due to the mesh filter not fitted but since I will be using high quality oil filter and syn oil and doing oil changes every 5 000k's with a filter change each time, I feel I wolud gain turbo life.

Mine you it will cost me a extra $20 to $25 dollars to use syn oil plus $10 for the purolator filter each oil change.

[XR06T]

thanks for the write up mate