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That was a real question ... I wasnt saying you shouldnt base it at all on acceleration figures ... come on maite ... I might not be sleeping but you were asleep when you posted the response ...

It is a serious question ... for example ... I would factor 20% of my purchase on straight line acceleration. What about you?

Alex

So a family friend of mine who is high up at Mercedes HQ in Mulgrave, who just happened to be running in one of those twin turbo V12 monsters SL65, and had the keys for a week, before it's use by motoring journos, is short of a braincell or 2 is he?

No ... not at all ... as I said earlier if you are going to have a stuff around drag then go for your life ... What I was saying was dont be upset if you loose. Just like you shouldnt be upset if you loose to a Torana because it cost less to purchase and modify but is much faster than your XR ... If you do infact put that much weight on straight line acceleration and you are going to be upset about loosing to a modfied F6 then the SL65 is probably the wrong purchase value wise - not very smart. I am sure your family friend would be much smarter than that ... If these rich guys got there with brains and purchased a SL65 ... they dont give a stuff about a modified F6 or GTS. If you were in the SL65 and lost to a modified F6 or GTS would you feel bad? Or in simpler terms would you feel bad if you lost to a Torana with your XR?

Alex

:wackit: There will always be a car faster than yours no matter what you drive :fool:

The hole fun thing is to see what happens and how you go, I love smoking exotics on the bike, but have had my ass handed to me by a Turbo GTS who cares.....we had a chat after it and checked out each others gear..... :wtcjerkit:

Chooka

that's the way! ... noone felt bad or got up on their high horse and it was all in good fun.

Alex

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I had a run with a M3 in my first XR6TURBO with a cappa flash NO custom tune, it was neck in neck ,SUCK THAT $120.000 &THE GEAR CHANGING ON THE STEERING WHEEL, AGAINST WHAT 40.000 & QUICK GEAR CHANGING OF THE T5 :blush::spoton: GO AWAY CHEERS BB

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I think you guys misunderstand my post.

Typhoons are much more than cars that go quickly in a straight line and that is what you pay for. Otherwise you should have bought something else (which would have been much cheaper and faster).

In my opinion, it seems that straight line acceleration plays a huge part (for some) in a performance car purchase. I agree that this forms some part and is very important but not a major factor which it seems to be. The reason why I say this is because when you are spending big dollars on the high end Euros and Aussie muscle all that money (or a big portion of it) is for the things you cant do with a VL or a Torana etc. Therefore, look at your Porsches, Lambos, Ferraris etc these cars are not made for drag racing at all. This is mostly a byproduct of other things. For you to go and race a F6 with a Lambo (or whatever) and take it seriously or feel bad etc (or expect an owner to feel bad) ... you have missed the point and wasted your money. You cant be too smart if you do that. But perhaps some buy these cars for things they weren’t primarily designed for ... (I am sure that some people would buy those cars just for the look). Its your cash so do what you like with it ... just don’t get upset when you lose to a VL ... and the blokes beating these cars don’t expect owners to be a upset otherwise you should feel the same about your XR6T or F6 when you loose to something much cheaper ...

But for the fun drag and stuff around ... go for your life (with whatever)... I never said anything about that ...

What percentage of your purchase is based on quarter mile / acceleration stats (be honest)?

So, I hope that cleared that up ...

Alex

If I had the means to buy an exotic car capable of serious speed and a car a fraction of the price hosed me I'd be a little disappointed but look at my ride chuckle to myself and say yes but my car's nicer.

On the other hand if I was beaten in the 'phhon by a highly modified VL or Torana I would pity the fool who spent all that money on an old car (which is barely legal or streetable) when for a similar investment he could have been driving in comfort with perfomance as I currently do.

BTW I've probably spend a couple hundred grand modifying cars over the years, no regrets but I now know which way I would rather go given the choices available to people today. The Typhoon is arguably the most well rounded package available today IMHO.

Big AL

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BTW I've probably spend a couple hundred grand modifying cars over the years, no regrets but I now know which way I would rather go given the choices available to people today. The Typhoon is arguably the most well rounded package available today IMHO.

Big AL

Which cars have you had / modified? Do you modify your cars primarily for drag racing or circuit etc? What emphasis did you put on acceleration times when you bought the car?

The Typhoon is definately a very good candidate for moderate power increases with very little outlay ... very good out of the box too ...

Alex

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Al has many years of experience as do most of us, we have owned so called performance cars and now we have a typhoon,

I think I can speak on behalf of Al when I say...

The best muscle car australia has ever produced is the F6 Typhoon.......

He loves his phoon as does everyone on this site that owns one or has been in one... Please spend more time researching why we like our cars, actually have you even been in one??, and then you may get a better understanding of the experience we get....

Thanks for your csinacism.... We have a lot to be proud of and we wont go away overnight.....

God bless you alex.. one day I hope you get to experience the joy we do..!!!

is that better dags??????

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Scotty,

You need to relax maite ... dont shoot then ask questions later. But if it makes you feel better than go ahead ...

I have driven BA/BF XR6Ts, XR8s, GTs, F6 many times (including each one at the drags - calder and private drag strip). I have driven all variations too .... T5, T56, A4 and A6. Brilliant cars ... top value. In particular the T engine and A6 gearbox are fantastic. I can provide the slips if you like but from the top of my head ...

- BA XR6T Manual (T5) * 2 different cars - best of 13.9@100 (issues with slipping clutch ... 2nd to 3rd bit slow ... hit and miss afair)

- BA XR6T (A4) * 2 different cars - best of 13.6@102 (top value ... good gearing for drag racing / mods and turbo engine)

- BA XR8 (M6) - best of 13.8@101 ... low down torque issues ... heat soak problems

- BA GT (M6) - best of 13.6@105 ... great sound

- BA F6 (M6 - obviously) - best of 13.5@106 ... gearing is too short and boost drop between gears ... very fast

- BF F6 (A6) - best of 13.0@108 ... fantastic acceleration for the dollar

Now for the modified ones;

- BA XR6T (A4) Capa flasher (9psi) ... 13.0@109

- BA XR6T (A4) Nizpro and HPF tunes, valve springs, cold air (12psi-10psi) ... 12.7@112 ... stock rubber

I have also driven and been in many others (including other modified ones) ...

Why would I want you guys to go away ... I have been on this forum since 2003 and I enjoy it very much ...

Take it easy,

Alex

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