Did Ya See Who Lost It

[BAturb]

no problems for Lowndes that was behind him

[YPURV4]

Yes either of the kelly's are wankers, but the real sad thing is where the frk was ford at the end of the day.....

And that champion ship theif got another 20 points

[mbjunior99]

Well said

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Didn't Todd say he thought there was brake fluid on the track and that's what caused him to run off?

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nope..."it wasn't my fault there's brake fluid everywhere in the cabin " were the exact words.

Always good to see a Expensive Daewoo in the kitty litter

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I dislike all who drive for both of TOM's teams as much as the next guy, but I do believe Todd had a genuine brake problem. Yes, he did lock up the front wheel which leads me to believe the brake fluid inside the cabin was from the rear master cylinder.

[phantomchic]

Looks like Tod is taking after his team mate.. hanging out in the sand

shaz

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Why even bother to watch V8 supertom championship.

I heard that all 4 of his cars where in top 5 with lowndes sitting in 3rd for the grid positions .

One other crummy in the top ten, what was this car and driver?

How did he finish?

What was the results not that am interested anymore let me guess, tander, rick, scaife, Lowndes, Courtney, Wincup, Winterbottom, Bright, Ingal, Johnson, Davison, Bowe, Brad, Bargwarner, Rat oh first of non hrthsv car Jack perkins, Ford, Ford, Ford Other Perkins car, Ford, Ford with rest all being holden .

Hate hrthsv rick the side burn kid and scaife big nose but tod would be least hated out of toms drivers.

Wish lowndes took rick out first corner, that would have been ORSM news to hear.

Better still should make a new rule if your the last positioned Ford at 3/4 race distance you are to take p rick kelly out or be excluded from any funding From Ford, If successfull bonus of $5g for doing so and $3g for any other of tom's cars.

Does anyone know if tom has paid for those Cosworth F1 engines yet, the ones he owed Cosworth for.

Maybe he is using them in hrthsv cars as we all know all other crummies arn't competitive.

[Ninka]

You may think as you please, but what a load of

If you are not interested, don't comment

[01txr]

So ninka what is a load of

Don't tell me you bat for the gmh side or are you bi.

gmh with tom have been dictating the sport for a long time and if you don't agree you need to pull your head out of your and look into what goes on behind the scene's.

Why did Ambrose say he had had enough of v8 supercars and decided to pursue racing options outside of Australia?

Why did Beta Elec pull sponsorship?

Why is Ford saying that they are cutting back on support?

How come it takes so long for skaife to prove ownership?

Has he done so yet or was it all wiped away with the finanial agreement (bribe).

Wasn't there problems with ownership in 2003/4 with ownership relating to hrt & hsv, didn't the kelly's buy hsv off tom and skaife buy hrt off tom ?

So why is there still a problem with ownerships of these two teams, didn't they pay there anual keep it quite fee?

If it is not sorted as far as I can see that should mean hrt hsv should be stripped of all race wins and title's while ownership not proven to be by the rule's

Didn't another Expensive Daewoo race team do some unorthorised testing and get penalised with a big fine, stripped of points and where not allowed to do any testing for a set time.

All this for one unorthorised testing day, yet hrthsv have been sharing data and drivers for years.

On my suggestion of tom using Ford Cosworth F1 engines I ment it as a sadistic remark as I know that there would be no way he would be able to use these engines (well I hope not) but he did bring in other F1 parts to use on his cars.

Ingall makes contact with skaife trying not to go off track as skaife had shunt ingall in rear making ingall go wide then turned under him using him to take the corner, but it didn't work out for skaife in the end and ingall gets penalised badly for trying to avoid going off track and into wall because of this cheating bribe artist.

Skaife also does this to Ambrose and Ambrose gets hit with penality for not allowing racing room, prior to this wasn't the lead car had right away (car making pass must be past B piller prior to turning into corner).

But when Ambrose does same thing to skaife didn't Ambrose get the penality?

murph takes Ambrose out in what looked to be blatantly deliberate and Ambrose was lucky not to have suffered a servere injury due to murphs tactics.

murph gets a slap on the hands and is call a racing incident

That to was probably washed aside with a finanial agreement.

Or maybe the fact that murphs team where naming rights to that race may have had something to do with the ruling.

And if you think p rick taking Lowndes out was a racing incident and was not planed you might need a crow bar to pry your head out of your

So if skaife is such a great driver why did Lownde's show him the way to the finish on nearly every race that he drove for hrt.

2 sets of rules.

I have had enough of watching this championship but that does not mean I don't like racing between different makes, and I would give credit to hrt and hsv if they where playing under the same rules and not taking out the top placed Ford to succeed.

It is such a pitty that they arn't playing under the same rules as Ford and other Expensive Daewoo teams, all they are doing is destroying the sport.

I have watched Ford battle gmh for close to 30 years and until the officials started imposing performance penalities to the Ford v8 supercars with worst being the 40kg + frontal down force difference of the AU Falcon.

Hell how much did hrt cry about officials going to equalise the splitter lenght to the point it didn't evenuate.

But project blueprint was to even out performance difference's with allowing gmh to use same style block and head config's to Ford as well as the Double wish bone Ford front set up and the 100mm the engine was allowed to match the position of the Ford engine, mean while Ford get a aero package equivilent, well nearly as I think it was stated that gmh cars where allowed to use the extra boot lip until gmh where up to speed with mechanical development of the new style engine/suspension.

I think they are still using this extra lip.

This lip will aid in low speed cornering advantage.

I have many a friend who bat for the gmh side and most of them are sick of hrt hsv cheating ways and wish anyone of the other Expensive Daewoo teams to put hrt hsv in there place.

We have good relations even though we back different manufacture's and are always competing between ourselfs on who has the best package.

Sorry for this huge thread but ninka stirred the pot.

Everyone has there own opinion and should be able to voice it.

So how was the racing today was it a hrthsv white wash?

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