turtle33 Member 578 Member For: 19y 9m 29d Gender: Male Location: brisbane Posted 20/03/07 02:40 PM Share Posted 20/03/07 02:40 PM Don't forget you're free incontinence pads that Toyota give away with every car they sell ←if I get it, I will wave when I see the xrt blown up on the side of the road as I drive past. ps: should have got the incontinance pad with my yoot cause it really gives me the sh*ts some times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tquarrell Member 181 Member For: 20y 4m 19d Gender: Male Location: Sydney, NSW Posted 20/03/07 10:58 PM Share Posted 20/03/07 10:58 PM I'm with evil F6, why do they persist with front wheel drive? The benefits are reduced cost and weight, however with a big engine I'd suggest front wheel drive is far more expensive and adds weight. 380 and aurion are as heavy and expensive as falcons and commodores so what's the point of it? The only fwd car I like (but wouldn't buy cause I prefer rear wheel drive anyway) is the maxima. It's 1480kg's, and has the 350z engine. What is it with australians buying toyota's anyway? They rave about reliability, but the diesel hiluxs dad has had for work in the past are absolutely sh*t.The next thing is supercharging, no thanks. can't see these things holding a candle to the xr6 turbo zf 6 speed stock, (or any xr6 turbo for that matter) not a hope in hell of competing against the typoon or a modded to (edit only as we know puts the T in another league to stock). Seriously, why would you want one? And as for reliability, if you leave the xr6t stock you want have a problem, if you modify it properly and don't take short cuts you won't have a problem. Ford's or any straight 6 for that matter is inherently stronger than a v6 due to main number of bearings and moving parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat-Tony Member 5,364 Member For: 18y 9m 2d Posted 20/03/07 11:19 PM Share Posted 20/03/07 11:19 PM When will these car builders learn that front wheel drive and lots of torque and power equals a dangerous pole magnet. All the traction control and stability control in the world is not going to steer away from the physics that all that weight up the front of the car, and the fact that it is driven through the front wheels means its going to be biased to a handling car. I look forward to embarrassing a few of these pussy mobiles with my RWD platform. I might have traction problems but none that those things will have. My 2c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teeg Member 372 Member For: 19y 5m 10d Location: SA Posted 20/03/07 11:31 PM Share Posted 20/03/07 11:31 PM what happened to the rallifart magna's???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrunks Member 665 Member For: 20y 5m 12d Location: Gold Coast Posted 20/03/07 11:44 PM Share Posted 20/03/07 11:44 PM HAHAHAHAHA How abot the XR5T then for all you RWD freaks??Are you guys saying that the XR5T is a sh*t box because it is FWD??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XR06T Silver Donating Members 4,146 Member For: 19y 6m Gender: Male Posted 21/03/07 12:24 AM Share Posted 21/03/07 12:24 AM think I'll have a drive before I bag it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 20y 7m 28d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 21/03/07 01:34 AM Share Posted 21/03/07 01:34 AM HAHAHAHAHA How abot the XR5T then for all you RWD freaks??Are you guys saying that the XR5T is a sh*t box because it is FWD???←I think a few of you guys need to pull your heads out of the sand. Just because something is pulled and not pushed around doesn't automatically give it the sh*t-box title.Destroy the bloody thing for having a toymota badge on it if you will...but the FWD argument is plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat-Tony Member 5,364 Member For: 18y 9m 2d Posted 21/03/07 02:16 AM Share Posted 21/03/07 02:16 AM Statements made from people who have either never owned a FWD or have never stepped out the back of their own car. I have owned 3 performance FWD's. They can be nice and can handle well but ultimately no matter how good they are, they still push at the nose round a hard corner which feels like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil F6 Donating Members 830 Member For: 18y 11m 14d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 21/03/07 02:47 AM Share Posted 21/03/07 02:47 AM HAHAHAHAHA How abot the XR5T then for all you RWD freaks??Are you guys saying that the XR5T is a sh*t box because it is FWD???←No not a sh*t box at all, but it hasn't got quite enough power to be an issue and it's not a big family car trying to compete against a Falcon or Commodore. A Golf GTi is awesome but it's only got 147kW, but if you are power junky, you'll quickly see why fwd sucks. Mazda 3 MPS needs all sorts of trickery to keep it from torque steering off the road in 1st and 2nd, the 4wd Mazda 6 MPS is a much nicer drive and gets off the line much faster.Also fwd is cobbled by the laws of physics; weight is transferred rearward under acceleration, so fwd always has a traction issue, especially off the line and when towing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wados Member 617 Member For: 20y 2m 5d Gender: Male Location: brisbane Posted 21/03/07 03:19 AM Share Posted 21/03/07 03:19 AM its not so much that its FWD it is its driving capabilities, From what I have read in articles about the aurion that it handles sh*t house, straight line they said it was good got the power down and was a nice ride but try and corner not so good, now I know not everyone likes to go into corners with a bit of speed but I do sometimes and from what I have read the aurion is well behind the xr6 and sv6.on the other I hope toyota does very well with there new cars and that they are all round good cars, the more competition the better for all us guys when we look for new cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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