Labor Landslide?

[Trough Lolly]

whats wrong with food stamps!!!

[ZAP]

Ninka,

While I see your point and agree in some areas, I do not agree with our social security system.

We encourage bludgers. 100% of the population that wants a job has one, the current 5% that are apparently jobless do not want to work and are given money to not work.

While I do not agree with the USA style of welfare, I think we need to remove long term dole bludgers from receiving social security. Maybe then they will go out and get a job stacking boxes or flipping burgers for minimum wage and try to better themselves to earn more.

From memory the USA pays 1 month for every year you have paid taxes as unemployment benifits. This makes people find a job, any job quicker.

We have just created the welfare state paying people to surf and sit around and smoke drugs.

As for the environment, no government wants to do the right thing as it will make our economy suffer. If we sign the Kyoto agreement, we will be up for paying BILLIONS in carbon credits as we produce coal that is one of the worlds worst carbon emitter. If Labour get in, do not expect any radical environmental projects as they will just bandaid the problem until the next election.

[Ninka]

I agree ZAP

[tmac450]

You missed my point entirely. While I think all of our Governments could do better, history shows we generally do worse under Labour.

My comparison to comunism is if you actully read some of Labour's constitution and diatribe, you'll definatly see a Marxist influence. Don't forget it was Labour who campaigned against Australian citizens getting knighthoods because they felt it went agains their beleifs of a 'level' society.

I agree that our budget surplusses should be put back into infrastructure, but the tax breaks are there to apease the labour/union cronies who accuse the Government of fleecing the poor. Labour would not, and has not done anything different. Look at our states where Sydney and Melbourne are running out of water because of a lack of infrastructure. In NSW tax revenues have never been higher. Look at NSW Labour's record of backhanders for tunnel contracts, instead of spending the money on a road that copes, they cop a back hander for a substandard job. The desalination plant is looking to be the same thing. Yet nothing is done to bring these guys to task and see where the money is going.

Look back to Keeting who was caught throwing taxpayer money to benefit himself with his piggery, he also purched a fake antique table for $35,000 for the lodge. It turns out the table was purchased from a business partner of his and he knew full well it was fake. How does a guy that failed as a small business manager, who had no money before polotics, become a multi-milionaire as a PM who gets paid just a few hundred thousand?

Things are far from perfect, but don't kid yourself into thinking that Labour would or will do a better job.

[XR6T8080]

1. you have brought up interest rates - not something a labour supporter wants to argue about, considering labours history with interest rates...

2. Education, Health, Roads, ARE ALL state programs, which have a 2 billion surplus currently - THANKS TO HOWARD AND HIM BRINGING IN GST, but if that 2 billion isnt enough they want to increase it another 17%.

3. Howard Does somewhat control our export markets by ensuring all business runs well and efficiently

4. David Hicks, well of course hes going to do things like this if he wants to stay in, I dont see how this is a negative for him, the same could be said for Dr. Patell and QLD Health I suppose, as to why nothing was done sooner when it was brought up in parliament - ANOTHER LABOUR PROBLEM - and do you know that beatie has just changed the policy that now stops whistleblowers from bringing problems like this to parliament, so in otherwords every doctor can do whatever the hell they want without consiquence.

5. And your last paragraph, I found a country which I think suits that statement - AUSTRALIA

do you know that the labour government was told some 2 years ago I believe that we were going to run out of water?

I watched a power pole get fixed the other day and there were 8 people standing on the ground watching, and one person in the cherry picker fixing the pole, now you could loose 4 of those people, hire a second cherry picker, get the job done quicker, and save money - thus resulting in more of the 2 billion surplus funds GST has created, that still isnt enough for all these labour guys that think they should get paid 100k a year for holding a stop sign.

NOT FRIGGIN LIKELY.

[Ninka]

Well boys, looks like your life is easy - Just vote for Howard.

I won't waste my time trying to convince you otherwise, nor will I confirm that I am a Labour voter, but the one-eyed views posted here, are just a scary as talking to Bush supporters in the States, they can't see that there is anything wrong with what he has done over the past 7 years either

As I said, easy choice for you

Some of the rest of us have a choice to make

[ZAP]

Bush is the world's 21st century Hitler and is NOTHING like John howard.

We had to follow the USA into war, I would bet you a million dollars that the Labour government would have done EXACTLY the same thing if put in the same position.

It is easy to sit in opposition and judge things and bring up hindsight, but I would gove the Liberals a 8/10 for the past 10 years in office. They spent the first 5 years fixing all the damage done by the Hawke/Keeting era, and have done a great job avoiding recession that Asia, Eirope and America all experienced to differen extents.

As for Hicks, the only thing I did not agree too was the time taken to give this war criminal a fair trial. He was training with Terriroists and had joined to fight agains US. He should rot in jail for life and not be allowed back in our country. Do not have sympathy for that scum, he is an oxygen thief and should be treated as one, not as some down trodden hero.

[Desert_phantom]

Howard did not have to follow bush! What a ridiculous statement. We are duty bound to offer them millitary if they are being invaded and such. No duty in helpin "21st century Hitler" with continuing his fathers dirty work in Iraq. That makes us Hitler accomplice. We are just as bad.

And NINKA I agree with you 100% Its not worth voting for your hip pocket. Id rather vote for fair workin conditions, education and a working welfare.

Also please expand upon this:

They spent the first 5 years fixing all the damage done by the Hawke/Keeting era

Edited 03/04/07 12:12 PM by Dagabond

[tab]

Howard did not have to follow bush! What a ridiculous statement. We are duty bound to offer them millitary if they are being invaded and such. No duty in helpin "21st century Hitler" with continuing his fathers dirty work in Iraq. That makes us Hitler accomplice. We are just as bad.

It's a case of doing whatever your mate wants....just in case we may need them to help us in the future. Makes perfect sence to any realistic person.

Labour supported it at the start, and Rudd has mentioned countless times in recent interviews that he would have done the same, but would be pulling them out sooner. Will be very interesting to see what labour does if they win - I'm guessing nothing.

[jetute]

all the crap aside... a lot of people have brought up the new IR laws and how people can get the sack etc etc....

its funny how it hits a raw nerve when you become replacable...

so its ok for the worker to go out and look for a job that has better pay and then to tell your boss that your leaving as someone is willing to pay you 10K more????? or that you are willing stay if your salary is raised to the level of the other potential employer.

but its NOT OK for your boss to come to you and say "hey I found someone to do your job for $10K less and hence im going to have to let you go"

If this happened most would be jumping up and down getting the unions involved etc etc and blaming the new IR laws

its funny how the shoe only fits one set of feet!!

Edited 03/04/07 10:56 AM by jetute