Dr Concrete Member 69 Member For: 19y 5m 24d Location: Adelaide Posted 08/03/07 01:22 AM Share Posted 08/03/07 01:22 AM Hey homes,I've been wondering if I was to change the conrods on the T ute, what would be the easiest way to do it? Would it be easiesr to take off the head or to remove the sump and drop out the crank to do it? Has anyone tried to just remove the sump and slip out only the conrods by themselves? It might sound stupid but in some other engines it can be done. What do you think?Regards Jordan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninka Donating Members 1,850 Member For: 22y 5d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 08/03/07 01:28 AM Share Posted 08/03/07 01:28 AM Pistons can't be removed through the bottom, but can only come out once the head is removed.Could it be done in the car, yes, but it would not be easy.You can't 'drop out the crank' as it is connected to the transmission, but you can undo the conrod caps and pull the pistons out through the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Member 214 Member For: 20y 11m 17d Posted 08/03/07 03:24 AM Share Posted 08/03/07 03:24 AM If you gave a long motor, new rods and pistons to a mechanic what would someone expect to pay just to have it all put together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmax Member 44 Member For: 19y 25d Gender: Male Location: sunshine coast Posted 08/03/07 12:51 PM Share Posted 08/03/07 12:51 PM if you are going to the trouble of changing the rods, why not throw in some better pistons to go with the deal, balance it all... and you are streets ahead.there is no easy way to change the rods in any engine I know of that you will find in a car ( yes, some big industrial stuff will have side access to engine block to loosen rod bolts, but we are talking 50 litre diesels), in short - head off, sump off...you may as well yank it out altogether.my opinion only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole trickle Donating Members 237 Member For: 18y 11m 21d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne, Vic Posted 09/03/07 06:12 AM Share Posted 09/03/07 06:12 AM I've thought about this aswell, I've seen it done in a few cars take the head off with the inlet manifold and the turbo/manifold left on, just need to undo the fuel lines, electrical's, and other hose's, belt's....etcDrop the sump, undo rod bolt's push the piston/rods up, size new piston's to match bore, rod bearing to match crank, drop in new combo tension everything up again, Only need to make sure that the new piston/rod combo weigh the same as each combo set then would be all balncedAnd away you go? or not quite that easy with these cars?????If a sponsor/or engine rebuilder in melb is up to do this, count me inCheers Dalesy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 3m 5d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 09/03/07 06:30 AM Share Posted 09/03/07 06:30 AM I've thought about this aswell, i've seen it done in a few cars Drop the sump, undo rod bolt's push the piston/rods up, size new piston's to match bore, rod bearing to match crank, drop in new combo tension everything up again, Cheers Dalesy←"dropping the sump" involves removing the Eng from the car or the front cross member and suspension assembly. By the time you do that you might as well pull the donk and do it properly.Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninka Donating Members 1,850 Member For: 22y 5d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 09/03/07 06:44 AM Share Posted 09/03/07 06:44 AM I've thought about this aswell, I've seen it done in a few cars take the head off with the inlet manifold and the turbo/manifold left on, just need to undo the fuel lines, electrical's, and other hose's, belt's....etcDrop the sump, undo rod bolt's push the piston/rods up, size new piston's to match bore, rod bearing to match crank, drop in new combo tension everything up again, Only need to make sure that the new piston/rod combo weigh the same as each combo set then would be all balncedAnd away you go? or not quite that easy with these cars?????If a sponsor/or engine rebuilder in melb is up to do this, count me inCheers Dalesy←Wow, you must have studied a few farm mechanics working on old tractors Working on a high performance engine like a turbo charged XR6T requires a bit more finesse, and I think your suggested methodology would end in tears Changing conrods by this method may be possible (but not recommended), but fitting new pistons to the block without proper measuring and matching the fine tolerances these engines run with would just be crazy.As Hiddeous says, it is just as easy to take the engine out and do it properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole trickle Donating Members 237 Member For: 18y 11m 21d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne, Vic Posted 09/03/07 12:26 PM Share Posted 09/03/07 12:26 PM Wow, you must have studied a few farm mechanics working on old tractors First one I saw was on a 400hp 4cycl turbo worked out fine, the next on a ford courier that gets used everyday, both was done an engine reconditioner in melb, 5 mins from the cityI didn't realise you had drop the suspension to get the sump offO'well worth a thoughtDalesy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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