Sign Of Ford Pulling Out From V8sc

[mbjunior99]

That would really make it an interesting series if that was to happen! How many 'different' manufacturers would that attract?? I would say there would be a few, especailly overseas.

[Mr X]

There have been a few incarnations of sedan racing in Australia in the past.

Series Production gave us GTHO,XU-1,L34,Falcon GT rpo 83,RT E 49,A9X,XC Cobra homologated specials etc which raced against Alfa Romeo,Jaguar etc.

Group A gave us VK Commodores with Ford 9 inch diffs,Sierras with 9 inch diffs and R32 Skylines with 25 pounds + boost.

V8 Supercar has brought us 5 litre pushrod racing in a car with a common frame and mechanicals(mostly) No one can buy a car with any real mechanical similarities from their dealer.Its neither a Ford or Expensive Daewoo victory whatever car wins.Its a win to a particular team.

The only category to pass improvements on to the road cars(ie 'racing improves the breed') was Series Production.

Bring back series production I believe.

......only Expensive Daewoo and Ford accountants would know whether its cheaper to build 200 GTHO's/HSV GTS track specials- than throw millions at V8 supercar teams and driver contracts.

I'd rather see FPV take on the HSV (and Subaru,BMW,Mitsubishi etc)in 'Performance Car" category in the future and come out on top.Legendary cars would return and improvements to the race cars would filter down to the road cars.

[tmac450]

  Evil F6 said:

In a way I hope this contrived series does flounder and we end up getting a true international replacement using high tec V8 offerings from the many manufacturers that have them.

At the moment it's just a silhouette series with rules designed so only ford and Expensive Daewoo can compete.

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Just a slight correction to your comment, you should say that the rules are designed so only Expensive Daewoo can win.

[Evil F6]

  tmac450 said:

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Just a slight correction to your comment, you should say that the rules are designed so only Expensive Daewoo can win.

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I'm not quite that cynical.

Have a think about how many makers have high-tec V8 these days:

Audi

BMW

Mercedes

Nissan

Toyota

Ford

GMH

Jaguar

Porsche

Maserati

You could have a BTC like series with say 4-5L V8 instead of 2L engines.

[mbjunior99]

Nissan and Toyota?? Do they make V8's do they?

[pelican]

All we really have right now is an Australianised version of NASCAR.....

- Cars that can enter series is strictly controlled

- Cars ONLY LOOK like roadgoing versions

Frankly I'd like the series to go bust, and, we then go back to a more open series which allows all and any make to join..... based on a set of standardised rules.... ( and no 7.0L monaros allowed... ) PRODUCTION Based vehicles.....

V8 Supercars = Expensive Daewoo w@nkfest......

[Adam]

I've read some crap on this forum but this thread contains some of the most stupid comments I've ever read.

Explain to me how AVESCO are favoring Holden?

Look at the race results over the last few years...

The series is competitive, alive and well!

I like V8 Supercars just the way it is. The new rule changes will only improve the series. The playing field is as level as it will probably ever get with the parity and Project Blueprint rules. All that makes for good close racing.

The Ford teams are now working together more than ever before to battle manufacturer vs manufacturer rather than the Ford teams standing alone against a mostly united Expensive Daewoo front.

I have absolutely no interest in watching production or semi modified XR8, GT, SS or HSV's racing around a track. The fact is they're just to slow and aren't exciting to watch compared to the current breed of supercar.

And anyone that thinks the XR8 or SS they buy tomorrow is anything like the V8 Supercar they saw win yesterday is a complete fool.

[pelican]

Adam,

A two person pissing contest gets a bit boring after a while......

Why not open the series up to other makes ???

[01txr]

Project blue print was invented as avesco cams tega whoever finally noticed that there where hardly any Ford supporters watching the sport while there unfair parity rules where making it impossible for Ford to be competitive.

Could you imagine having to compete against another vehicle that nearly had the power your car was capable of but you kept getting the bad end of the deal where you where only allow to run 16kg frontal down force to 60 kg frontal downforce (AU Falcon) to compensate the 10 hp power difference.

Now watch it all happen again as they have the attention of the Ford fans and gmh will not want there dud new car to fail, they will do what ever it takes to make it look like a car that can beat the best cars in the world. (there are people that are stupid and buy because of the v8 supercars)

You know they used the std 7.0l monaro with full factory options to beat the Porshe and Ferrai's.

Its all a trait of gmh with there make a legand out of Goes right back to the beginning.

Maybe Ford should start pulling the wool over people's eyes and do the same,

NO PLEASE DONT Iam very happy with Ford quality.

The best thing is to have a series that is true production car of all makes but different classes. Engine and drive train is sealed so no cheating can happen with strick inspections of OEM parts being used or controled parts that the public could have access to and afford.

Eg look at mods that everyone on here have done to get more go, just a rough guess I would have to say 300rwkw would be about average power for a xr6t and those mods could be set as a control thing you know external bolt ons like exhaust and injectors, fuel pump, and retune.

I know with my own t at 270rwkw it is a hand full under WOT and that's with 265 wide 19's on rear..

How can you say that it would be to boring as they would be to slow.

For starters there would be more variety and the cars would move around more.

If you have ever watched the historic production cars go around a track you would know what I mean.

[Adam]

  01txr said:

I know with my own t at 270rwkw it is a hand full under WOT and that's with 265 wide 19's on rear..

How can you say that it would be to boring as they would be to slow.

Because it is slow!

I'd put every dollar I have, even on Jack Perkins in his V8 Supercar to wipe the floor with you and your 270rwkw XR6T around any race track.

It's a purpose built RACE car. Your XR6T STREET car wouldn't stand a chance!