groper Member 611 Member For: 17y 11m 7d Posted 05/03/07 11:39 AM Author Share Posted 05/03/07 11:39 AM ok, looks I started a completely different topic here... can we get back on track please?what is the deal with the turbo swing valve, what is the prob/limitation with the stock item?how can we control boost, options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groper Member 611 Member For: 17y 11m 7d Posted 05/03/07 11:40 AM Author Share Posted 05/03/07 11:40 AM oh, and whats the best bang for $$$ for an intercooler kit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XR06T Silver Donating Members 4,146 Member For: 19y 6m 16d Gender: Male Posted 06/03/07 12:41 AM Share Posted 06/03/07 12:41 AM (edited) you can get 305rwkw without actuator mods, check the thread herehttp://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=31115monza cooler is cheap and people are happy with them.Process west also do a really nice cooler for under 1k Edited 06/03/07 12:43 AM by XR06T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyXR6T04 Member 1,299 Member For: 19y 6m 19d Location: Canberra Posted 06/03/07 12:56 AM Share Posted 06/03/07 12:56 AM cobraV8, the reason I said phoon will crank more power is because he said he is after a slightly used car. I assumed, slightly used might mean older then April 06, depending on the deal he can get.. if the T has the same rods as the F6 then it wouldn't matter, but if he goes an earlier model the F6 will get more power.Anyways, back on topic. Here's my list of mods and power.I got 304rwkw with these mods968 injectors4inch catk&n panel + CAIEdit tuneFuel PumpASE intercooler (standard pipe work)clutch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP1D Member Donating Members 3,739 Member For: 18y 7m 19d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 06/03/07 03:22 AM Share Posted 06/03/07 03:22 AM ok, looks I started a completely different topic here... can we get back on track please?what is the deal with the turbo swing valve, what is the prob/limitation with the stock item?how can we control boost, options?←The deal is lack of air flow through the wastegate at higher boost. As you may know, most cars seem to boost higher in the midrange then the boost tapers down a few psi as the revs increase.the prob is, IF you want to run 15psi at 6000 rpm, the boost will spike to around 17psi at 3500sih rpm then come down to 15 due to the air not beeing able to flow through the wastegate and thus staying inside the exhaust housing making the turbo continue to spool up. If you increase the size of the wastegates opening it will flow enough air to regulate 15psi, thus giving you a nice even 15psi from low rpm to redline. Alot of poeple are happy to see 15psi then see it drop to 12 or 13 as that will get them to 300kws. others like to see 15 at redline but not 17 or 18 in the midrange as its just to high for a stock motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groper Member 611 Member For: 17y 11m 7d Posted 06/03/07 05:35 AM Author Share Posted 06/03/07 05:35 AM (edited) Anyways, back on topic. Here's my list of mods and power.I got 304rwkw with these mods968 injectors4inch catk&n panel + CAIEdit tuneFuel PumpASE intercooler (standard pipe work)clutch←only mods to the exhaust was the cat? what about the dump and the rest?nice... seems like it wouldnt cost a great deal to get there then? how was your power curve, nice and fat or kinda peaky?another thing im after is 300+rwkw, but achieved on low boost, lets say around 12psi, 15 max. how do I do that?and to settle the argument, I will be buying either NEW BF II xr6 (with the phoon rods) or an 06-05 phoon used (to freakin pricey new) Edited 06/03/07 05:39 AM by groper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFHOON Donating Members 1,932 Member For: 18y 9m 15d Gender: Male Location: nsw Posted 06/03/07 05:37 AM Share Posted 06/03/07 05:37 AM that's a good easy to read explanation rapid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groper Member 611 Member For: 17y 11m 7d Posted 06/03/07 05:43 AM Author Share Posted 06/03/07 05:43 AM The deal is lack of air flow through the wastegate at higher boost. As you may know, most cars seem to boost higher in the midrange then the boost tapers down a few psi as the revs increase.the prob is, IF you want to run 15psi at 6000 rpm, the boost will spike to around 17psi at 3500sih rpm then come down to 15 due to the air not beeing able to flow through the wastegate and thus staying inside the exhaust housing making the turbo continue to spool up. If you increase the size of the wastegates opening it will flow enough air to regulate 15psi, thus giving you a nice even 15psi from low rpm to redline. Alot of poeple are happy to see 15psi then see it drop to 12 or 13 as that will get them to 300kws. others like to see 15 at redline but not 17 or 18 in the midrange as its just to high for a stock motor.←thanks, I see now... one more thing, ive asked it in another thread, what wrong with the stock actuator and upping the boost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyXR6T04 Member 1,299 Member For: 19y 6m 19d Location: Canberra Posted 06/03/07 12:49 PM Share Posted 06/03/07 12:49 PM Only exhaust mods was the cat. I removed centre muffler later for the sound, but that didn't affect anything.here's my dyno sheet. Boost hits hard, then tapers back in the higher rev range. I still have the stock valve springs though. Still, it's great to drive. Good luck with it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loopism Tractor Driver Member 709 Member For: 18y 10m 29d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 06/03/07 11:22 PM Share Posted 06/03/07 11:22 PM as of april 06 all T's share the same rods and valve springs as the phoon motors so guessing it is a level playing field if you have one of these cars←Bugger, my car was built a few months early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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