BRAKE SHUDDER ISSUE

[1axr]

got my car back from the dealer today after the 5th brake fix and gess what they did.

yes you got it they skimmed the disks again.

they say if I have to bring it back again they will have to replace the disks.

service adviser was very appolajetic but said ford has there hands tied cause they wont let them do anything else to fix the problem.

come on ford get your act together. :banghead: :banghead:

[hypnodoc]

got my car back from the dealer today after the 5th brake fix and gess what they did.

yes you got it they skimmed the disks again.

they say if I have to bring it back again they will have to replace the disks.

service adviser was very appolajetic but said ford has there hands tied cause they wont let them do anything else to fix the problem.

come on ford get your act together. :banghead: :banghead:

:banghead:

Suprise, suprise, suprise!

Just as I predicted 1axr, that's why I just spent the $1000 and did it myself.

I don't think there is ever going to be a fix, just a revamp for the series 11.

Somebody in the engineering dept needs their @rse kicked. Enough of us togeather could get an ACA story on this. I know David Margan, see how slow FMC is to react then, especially with an independant engineers report. Ford your T rakes suck

[Venom XR6]

I've had two BA XR8's and haven't experienced brake shudder but my dad's XR6 has. I have heard that all new BA's have had a fix in the form of moving the callipers and therefor pads further off the discs to stop the problem. I can't confirm that but if that is the case it would explain why the old XR8 I traded in on my new one 3 weeks ago had great brakes and while my new ones feel crap. They feel very spongey and need a decent shove to get them to work effectively. They feel as bad as the brakes I had on my EB. If this is Fords fix then it is a very poor effort as it has totally eliminated the previously good brake feel and power the earlier brakes had. I will try to drive a few new ones to confirm wether they all now feel the same or wether it is just my car.

Ford have a team who have researched the problem of brake shudder and they now claim they know more about brake shudder than anyone else in the Ford world so a decent fix shouldn't be too far away, lets hope it is a proper effort and not a half arsed cheap solution they usually do in these situations. If moving the callipers further off the discs and stuffing up the feel is the solution then god help us all as my brakes feel very weak compared to all the other BA's I have driven.

[tx3dude]

I dont own a "T" but heres my 2c

I think the problem isnt the discs either ... I think its the pads. skiming a disc is the cheapest option for ford. I think they do it because the pads are "glazing" in much the same way as a clutch can. I machined my flywheel twice... shudder issue still there. then I replaced the brass pucks and the shudder went away. by machinig the discs, theyre hoping the new surface will strip the pads a bit. its a cheap fix

[ktford]

I dont own a "T" but heres my 2c

I think the problem isnt the discs either ... I think its the pads. skiming a disc is the cheapest option for ford. I think they do it because the pads are "glazing" in much the same way as a clutch can. I machined my flywheel twice... shudder issue still there. then I replaced the brass pucks and the shudder went away. by machinig the discs, theyre hoping the new surface will strip the pads a bit. its a cheap fix

no it's the pad material. no asbestos anymore which was the ingredient that controlled the pads temperature, no asbestos & temp goes through the roof & onto the disc which gets too hot & presto, wobbly boot

[teebone]

"yes you got it they skimmed the disks again.

they say if I have to bring it back again they will have to replace the disks"

1axr

does that mean you will get new discs next time?

each time you have been getting them skimmed, have they been as bad or have your tolerance levels reduced with the debacle?

[1axr]

the brakes are crap to start with and they don't get mutch better after they are skimmed.

as they have been skimmed five times now I don't think there is much left.

the perminant fix only lasted 5000km the same as the other times they where fixed.

the blood is boiling Mr Ford and it's only getting hotter.

[GOLDIE]

the brakes are crap to start with and they don't get mutch better after they are skimmed.

as they have been skimmed five times now I don't think there is much left.

the perminant fix only lasted 5000km the same as the other times they where fixed.

the blood is boiling Mr Ford and it's only getting hotter.

As I have said before replace the ford pads with QFM type pads.

Ian

[ktford]

the brakes are crap to start with and they don't get mutch better after they are skimmed.

as they have been skimmed five times now I don't think there is much left.

the perminant fix only lasted 5000km the same as the other times they where fixed.

the blood is boiling Mr Ford and it's only getting hotter.

As I have said before replace the ford pads with QFM type pads.

Ian

No Ian,

they don't want to spend $50 for an end to this pain. They just want to rant & rave at no one in particular.

Scotty

[ASNU]

the brakes are crap to start with and they don't get mutch better after they are skimmed.

as they have been skimmed five times now I don't think there is much left.

the perminant fix only lasted 5000km the same as the other times they where fixed.

the blood is boiling Mr Ford and it's only getting hotter.

As I have said before replace the ford pads with QFM type pads.

Ian

No Ian,

they don't want to spend $50 for an end to this pain. They just want to rant & rave at no one in particular.

Scotty

Scotty.

I think you need to look at both sides of the debate mate.I think it is fantastic that Ian has had some success in fitting these aftermarket pads plus rotors but in my own situation it proved to be totally useless and only lasted 13000km.I might have seen the problem arise alot sooner as the loads I tow with my ute but pad compounds did not make any of this delimma go away,I should say in the short turn it did but came back after kms prevoius stated.

Everyone is unique on there driving styles and car usage,The way I am useing the ute all mods done before failed,Slotted and C/D plus 3 different compounds.Then again I tow heaps of loads and hit my favourite corner every night anywhere between 100-180km depending on driving conditions[Not that this is recommended to anyone]and have to pull up quite quickly.In the end I had no option but to upgrade to the premium fronts as dont really have the patience to put up with the problem coming back all the time.

The beauty of this discussion everyone is getting much needed insight of what everybody is doing to cure or fix this thing,We all the end have to right to decide whatever we so desire to do.Fix it properly or draw the hole thing out another 10000km.No factory fix will happen from past exprience.