BRAKE SHUDDER ISSUE

[Guest]

dbasteve do you know of any aftermarket good pads to fit the premium brake setup,as far as I know QFM and Bendix arnt doing them yet.

A supplyer gave me ultamates but they dont fit,differnt shape to the premium pad.

Thanks vik

[bloan]

dbasteve do you know of any aftermarket good pads to fit the premium brake setup,as far as I know QFM and Bendix arnt doing them yet.

A supplyer gave me ultamates but they dont fit,differnt shape to the premium pad.

Thanks vik

Ferodo?

[1axr]

bob

the white stains under the bonnet is coolent loss thake the car to your dealer to get checked out.

I had white staines down the side of the radiator with no apparent coolant loss and my dealer fitted a knew radiator.

and welcome to the forum

[ktford]

KTFORD

what can I say mate. you obviusly haven't been reading all the post's or you wouldn't make such a stupid comment.

1axr,

for stupid comments you should look within, how many times have you been back to the dealer for shudder? I'll bet there's a price for your time & I'm guessing that this would have excedded $50 by now. I'm assuming that someone who has a $50k car can afford $50 for an attempt to fix a problem that has spoiled the ownership of his pride & joy.

Try the QFM pads mate, you're getting all these lovely new machinings & new rotors with good surfaces & braking with pads that have been through the ringers. Old distorted pads will disfigure your new surfaces.

Scotty

[turbotrana]

KT Ford, this problem is not just a simple brake pad change to cure it. I'm sure if it was this problem it would have been cured at the next pad change, but in this case a pad change does not cure the problem. It is something more complex and expensive to fix. It is FORDS responsibility to fix it and untill then I aint buying a new or secondhand one.

Expensive Daewoo never ended up fixing brake shudder in my 98 VT. I've changed the pad type and it never cured it. I still dont know what exactly it is but I think it may relate to the design of the bearing hub (gen 3 type design and 600 bucks a set new) not being the best. Its a new design in VT and BAs and not really proven. This may be the same with the Ford. Although premium brakes may seem to have no problems, it may be that it just covers the problem up better.

Another theory on the VT onwards shudder is a liquid filled bush on the end of the front suspension control arm that causes shudder problems and that a change to nolathane fixes it.

Nevertheless it is a serious problem . This shudder does cause longer braking distances at high speed and could kill someone because of it.

[ktford]

So turbotrana,

are you saying that a pad change won't fix the problem? There is more than 1 person here who has changed pad type & fixed the problem, so I'm not guaranting that it will work, what I'm suggesting is that for a gamble of $50, try it, see if it works, you'll use the pads regardless so why not try it. Several independant brake shops I've spoke to have all stated that pad material (or lack of asbestos) is the cause of shudder. This isn't something I've dreamt up on my own, it's what supposed experts are talking about.

I'm happy to be proven wrong & don't mind the taste of humble pie.

Scotty

[Guest dbasteve]

It's worth a try!

QFM Super X or A1RM

[Guest]

Do QFM make them for the premium setup yte. Last I heard they dont.

vik

[twinxrs]

As I have said before replace the ford pads with QFM type pads.

Ian

Hi Ian

What is a QFM type pad ?

What's the difference between a QFM pad and the stock Ford pad ?

Can you recommend a brand of QFM pads that work OK in the BA's ?

Thanks,

Scott

[bloan]

"are you saying that a pad change won't fix the problem? There is more than 1 person here who has changed pad type & fixed the problem, so I'm not guaranting that it will work, what I'm suggesting is that for a gamble of $50, try it, see if it works, you'll use the pads regardless so why not try it. Several independant brake shops I've spoke to have all stated that pad material (or lack of asbestos) is the cause of shudder. This isn't something I've dreamt up on my own, it's what supposed experts are talking about.

I'm happy to be proven wrong & don't mind the taste of humble pie".

Scotty

Couldn't agree with you more KT Ford.

Stating the obvious!

It is plain to see we all have differing driving styles when we need to apply the brakes! That said, some folk might get away with just an upgrade to a better spec. pad, on the other hand those of use who drive/stop harder obviously need more than just a pad upgrade!

It is quite evident that Ford in their infinite ignorance can not or more likely will not remedy this problem, therefore we are forced to remedy the situation ourselves! Not very palatable I know but what alternative do we have!

My 2c.