Trumpy What's happening? Lifetime Members 1,605 Member For: 22y 19d Gender: Male Location: Steel City, NSW Posted 09/12/03 02:32 AM Share Posted 09/12/03 02:32 AM After fitting dba golds and using the standard ford pads the shudder came back after 6000 km's I replaced the pads with qfm type and have done another 5000 km's and with a lot of hard braking and city driving I can not make the shudder come back and the disc have no heat marks on them.I suspect that a lot of the shudder issue is the material of the pads.I think it is a case of finding the right ones.Ian Agreed Pad compound seems to be a factor here. I think the Ultimates on mine are so aggresive on the disk that they dont get a chance to shudder. They are permanently being machined by the pads.Either way, I'm just happy to be able to stay away from the dealer for more that a fortnight now.Plus it pulls up a treat now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktford FORD FORD FORD Donating Members 9,390 Member For: 21y 9m 6d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Point In Brissy's eastern side Posted 09/12/03 03:02 AM Share Posted 09/12/03 03:02 AM Pad material is the factor, bring back asbestos, a little cough will be worth the experience of not fearing shudder. I can supply some Super 6 roofing if someone can take it from there.Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superoo Member 340 Member For: 22y 1m 22d Gender: Male Posted 09/12/03 05:12 AM Share Posted 09/12/03 05:12 AM 90% of ppl with the standard brakes will be regretting the decision at the moment so you made a good choice I must be in the other 10%.I have had the brake shudder problem and it has since had the "permanent" fix applied. 4K later and still OK but I ain't holding my breath. Personally, there is no way I could justify 3G's to simply avoid a problem that is the manufacturers issue. If you feel you want the premiums for their resistance to fade, then fine. Sure, it can get annoying, but absolute worse case I'll spend half the 3G's on aftermarkets and end up with a better solution again. I'll put up one hell of a fight with the dealer before forking out more money to sort out this issue. As far as I'm concerned, it has become a big enough issue for us to take a stand. I'm still totally confused as to how this got through testing. It rears its ugly head far too quickly in too many cases for it to have not been noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mac_Dude Guests Posted 09/12/03 06:30 AM Share Posted 09/12/03 06:30 AM My BA arrives in January and I am now glad I ticked the premo brakes option!90% of ppl with the standard brakes will be regretting the decision at the moment so you made a good choice Well, I'm one of the people who got the Standard Brakes for 2 reasons :A) It's the responsibility of Ford to fix it and there is a chance they will come up with a permanent fix.B) There are aftermarket solutions that so far appear to do the job and cost less than the factory brakes. If point A) doesn't come true then I go for plan B The main disadvantage is the hassle and time off the road, but I'm willing to wear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dattoman Member 67 Member For: 21y 6m 10d Location: Perth Western Australia Posted 09/12/03 12:24 PM Share Posted 09/12/03 12:24 PM Ponder thisIf Ford fitted the premium brakes to the vehicle as minimum standard and raised the price of the car by $3000 to compensate. Would you still have bought it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XR64T Are we there yet? Donating Members 703 Member For: 21y 2m 23d Gender: Male Location: Sydney, NSW Posted 09/12/03 12:59 PM Share Posted 09/12/03 12:59 PM Are we sure the issue is not infact related to a build up of pad material on the discs. I suspect by one of the earlier posts this may be true in this case. I have seen this before and it only needs a bee's d1ck of material to give you shudder.Obviously, this would also be overcome during a machine as it would remove the material as well as a 10,000K's worth of disc rotor.Has anyone had Ford try just give there rotors a quick "sand" to see if this is the case? This is an old school fix, but it would certainly prove the theory...Wouldn't it be good if all it took was a change of pad manufacturers / types to correct this issue? Obviously, Ford may have a vested interest in their current supplier agreements which may or may not make this an easy move (considering legals, etc.)Lets hope??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBO4LT Member 1,533 Member For: 21y 4m 5d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 09/12/03 11:58 PM Share Posted 09/12/03 11:58 PM XR64TYou may be right I might give it a try , Ill let you know how I go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagabond Bored Member Administrator 35,722 Member For: 22y 1m 9d Gender: Male Location: Dé·jà vu Posted 09/12/03 11:59 PM Share Posted 09/12/03 11:59 PM Ponder thisIf Ford fitted the premium brakes to the vehicle as minimum standard and raised the price of the car by $3000 to compensate. Would you still have bought it ?Is that a trick question Datto? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mac_Dude Guests Posted 10/12/03 03:43 AM Share Posted 10/12/03 03:43 AM Ponder thisIf Ford fitted the premium brakes to the vehicle as minimum standard and raised the price of the car by $3000 to compensate. Would you still have bought it ? Nope it would have been either turbo OR premium brakes, I couldn't have both @ that time.After market is cheaper and I can save while I wait on my current brakes to shudder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sash Love the Ride.... Member 236 Member For: 21y 9m 17d Location: Roleystone, WA Posted 10/12/03 09:54 PM Share Posted 10/12/03 09:54 PM I had uncontrolable break shudder pulling up from 200km/h on conrod straight into the chase after the Bathurst weekend on the Monday morning when they opened the track. I absolutly S*%T myself. All ford did was machine the discs and say "see you in a few months". So they must not be too confident with the new shimming solution they have introduced...Premium Brakes are a little over priced. You can get DBA slotted cross drilled rotors and carbon fibre oversized bendix pads for around $1100 fitted. I'll be getting these when my discs warp again (and again, and again)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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