XR06T Silver Donating Members 4,146 Member For: 19y 10m 14d Gender: Male Posted 15/02/07 12:13 AM Share Posted 15/02/07 12:13 AM (edited) agentorange,your post got me thinking.. you would think that longer on L's would give kids more expierence, but in reality, with that expierence comes the mindset that they ARE good drivers and can handle any situation..not sure what can be done to get the kids to this point where they can handle any situation thrown at them, but until then kids will die on roads..one thing is for sure, speeding fines arent helping!to the OP, I guess that this unfortunate expierence may be enough to help you and your mates think twice, but how to get to this point without someones you know dying? I dont know.. Edited 15/02/07 12:13 AM by XR06T Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32524-speeding/page/4/#findComment-497337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tab Sucker Moderating Team 32,303 Member For: 21y 12d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 15/02/07 12:55 AM Share Posted 15/02/07 12:55 AM Blonk said: We will never know the true cause of these accidents until they put black boxes in cars.. And that is probably not far around the corner..←It's already the case Blonky - they've been fitted from the BA onwards. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32524-speeding/page/4/#findComment-497358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 21y 2m 23d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 15/02/07 05:20 AM Share Posted 15/02/07 05:20 AM I am sure that every car fitted with an airbag will or can retain in the cars ECU memory the last 10-60 seconds of driving info before the airbag deploys.This info includes wheel angles, brake application, SPEED and throttle position. I think the police still need to get a court order to gain access to this info, but most car companies will get the ECU data and pictures of the wreck to examin real world crashes and how their cars stood up.There was a well publicised case a few years ago of a Statesman driver who fought and won against the police when they wanted to see the black box data. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32524-speeding/page/4/#findComment-497419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6 UTE - Track Bound EVO III - Member 3,367 Member For: 20y 4m 21d Gender: Male Location: Strapped in and holding on Posted 15/02/07 05:52 AM Share Posted 15/02/07 05:52 AM andyturbo said: that's interesting I didn't know that, but its already been established that the car hit at 120kmph. If he hit at 120kph, what was he doing prior? 160kph?? In an 80 zone???? I actually never have 'runs' with P platers, women or bunky cars... Ontop of 'time and a place' sense of judgement. It's the mindset the young guys have to come to terms with and ultimatly change, and learn how bad you are on a track, by yourself!! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32524-speeding/page/4/#findComment-497422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyturbo Member 500 Member For: 21y 1m 22d Gender: Male Posted 15/02/07 06:56 AM Author Share Posted 15/02/07 06:56 AM (edited) F6 UTE said: andyturbo said: that's interesting I didn't know that, but its already been established that the car hit at 120kmph. If he hit at 120kph, what was he doing prior? 160kph?? In an 80 zone???? ←No. The the maximun speed reached was that of impact. Having spoken to somone in that car the driver did not brake, but tried to steer around wen the taxi come in frount..it was over in a matter of seconds. There are no skid marks at the scene.Also I'll add the driver of the car was not a Plater. Was 23 years old... It doesn't change anything but I thought I might add that seeing as people are bringing up P plater issues Edited 15/02/07 07:06 AM by andyturbo Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32524-speeding/page/4/#findComment-497445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blonk Iconoclast Donating Members 4,330 Member For: 20y 7m 10d Gender: Male Location: CH Posted 15/02/07 07:17 AM Share Posted 15/02/07 07:17 AM andyturbo said: No. The the maximun speed reached was that of impact. ←Well there's ya problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32524-speeding/page/4/#findComment-497455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRIBR Yaris member Member 4,486 Member For: 18y 10m 16d Gender: Male Posted 15/02/07 08:21 AM Share Posted 15/02/07 08:21 AM XR06T said: one thing is for sure, speeding fines arent helping!←I disagree.. if there were no speeding fines or hoon laws, I would have been drifting around every corner & doing 130 on the freeway on my P'z..but like 70% of p platers I thought I was in control of my car but now that im older and have a high(er) performance car.. I realise.. I got a looooong way to go! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32524-speeding/page/4/#findComment-497466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyturbo Member 500 Member For: 21y 1m 22d Gender: Male Posted 15/02/07 08:57 AM Author Share Posted 15/02/07 08:57 AM Blonk said: andyturbo said: No. The the maximun speed reached was that of impact. ←Well there's ya problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!←I never said there wasn't a problem. what is it with people here and taking words out of context. It was a response to a comment indicatiing that the driver could have been doing 160kmph. Of corse there was a fuking problem, that's why somone was killed. Im regreting starting this thread..the point was that this could happen to anyone on the roads, and it was meant as a reminder, not to argue about the skills of young drivers and how they are all so dangerous ect. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32524-speeding/page/4/#findComment-497482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blonk Iconoclast Donating Members 4,330 Member For: 20y 7m 10d Gender: Male Location: CH Posted 15/02/07 10:34 AM Share Posted 15/02/07 10:34 AM andyturbo said: Blonk said: andyturbo said: No. The the maximun speed reached was that of impact. ←Well there's ya problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!← skills of young drivers and how they are all so dangerous ←Well there's ya very next next problem right there!!!!!!! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32524-speeding/page/4/#findComment-497518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6 UTE - Track Bound EVO III - Member 3,367 Member For: 20y 4m 21d Gender: Male Location: Strapped in and holding on Posted 15/02/07 10:43 AM Share Posted 15/02/07 10:43 AM (edited) Blonk said: andyturbo said: Blonk said: andyturbo said: No. The the maximun speed reached was that of impact. ←Well there's ya problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!← skills of young drivers and how they are all so dangerous ←Well there's ya very next next problem right there!!!!!!!← Edited 15/02/07 10:43 AM by F6 UTE Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/32524-speeding/page/4/#findComment-497522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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