Turbo Oil Supply Screen Cleaning

[nifty]

sorry, I think I was misundertood, you only remove the factory screen IF you fit an aftermarket inline filter.

[seduced]

Will Ford change the screen and clean it for you as part of servficing? Or will they just botch it up and charge you accordingly..? Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to just replace the oil filter more often and clean the screen every...say 50,000km?

[tab]

Ford don't touch the screen as part of scheduled servicing.

[PHANTMXR6]

The turbo oil supply screen in the FG range has a recommended cleaning schedule of every 15000kms.

Unless you ask for it to be done I don't think it will.

[whysoserious]

This got blocked on my car which caused my turbo to seize up only 2k after a service by ford ..

after looking into it more ford never change or look at this filter.

for the $60 part and how fine the filter is its worth it to change it in my view..

I am even looking at a inline pressure gauge to put in the line near the front just so I know there is a flow of oil going to the turbo..

I noticed my F6 was a little diffent to the pics ya supplied but that was only int e pressure switch area .. and I did all the work from the top easy after pull out the air box and top cross over pipe..

but a nice detailed instruction..

Hi I know this is a old post but just sorta found this site after having been asking myself the same questions as to "why!"

I just recently siezed a turbo in my XR6 because of this oil feed pipe, funny enough it wasn't the screen that was blocked it was the actual pipe it was 90% blocked I also put it in petrol to dissolve the build up and tried blowing it out with the compressor but never managed to clear it completely!! weird huh.

Maybe a cabmium bath or something for cleaning? Anyway I just thought stuff it and brought the new piple off coventry's for $135 don't go to Ford they charge $175.

I also brought the new screen bolt as I couldn't get any type of circlip plier into that little sucker to get the screen out , I back flushed it but just decided to put a new one on anyway.

Also my car had just done 100k service 1k ago so I asked the question of Ford also do you clean this pipe/screen on any service , reply " no we don't"

well you should !!!! was my reply.

I am pretty amazed at these guys why they would intergrate this into there servicing it just baffles me but then again I hate the ford dealerships anyway.

Also not sure why they say not to run with a gasket between the turbo housing and exhaust header?

Seems a little weird also I placed one on mine can't see it being a problem?

Also I have changed my oil now from the recommended 10w 30 to mobil 1 0w 40 cause I recon that garret needs all the oil it can get at start up.

Got my Turbo from Turbo tech service exchange for $1650 and all's sweet now.Lesson learned albiet expensive!

The thing that I found the biggest *beep* in the swap out was the "h" bracket design from the front engine mount to the bottom 2 bolts on the turbo /exhaust housing man if those studs seized in the exhaust manifold housing and diddn't come out with the nuts you would be in some trouble removing the turbo, and the bottom stud on the hot side of the turbo that attaches the turbo exhaust to the turbo is the biggest pr1ck to install!!!!

Took me some swearing and about an hr just to get it done up..

Anyway will be cleaning this pipe now every couple of services.

Also I replaced the copper washers to the oil pipe screen bolt with doudy washers so they would be easier to remove in the future, I.e won't bind up so tight on the pipe.

Well that's the theory at least.

What a great site and a good thread this one is I would recommend everyone checking this pipe and cleaning it because I'm sure there is alot of money down the drain here because of a 200 buck screen and pipe!!!

Also to comment on the quote above

"I am even looking at a inline pressure gauge to put in the line near the front just so I know there is a flow of oil going to the turbo.."

Not sure if that would help you mate as in my case the pipe was blocked at the last 90` bend to the banjo bolt at the turbo and even if you had your pressure gauge you could still read pressure at the sender but it wouldn't tell you you had a block would it??

I recon some sort of oil flow sender fitted to that pipe would be the go anyone ever done this?????

great site !!

Edited 28/03/09 06:43 AM by whysoserious

[Smoke them tyres]

It would seem to me that;

Quote: "in my case the pipe was blocked at the last 90` bend to the banjo bolt at the turbo"

Has anyone thought that this is where the pipe gets hottest right next to the exhaust manifold and turbine housing? What happens when the engine is shut down?........oil flow stops but the "heat soak" continues. The bearing housing is protected by the water cooled jacket (and will thermosyphon), but what about the supply pipe? The oil "cokes" (turns to carbon) in the pipe, blocks oil flow and would explain why it couldn't be cleared. (To clear it would require heating with an oxy torch but even then I would still not use it as there may be more debris that would not come out).

Before water cooled bearing housings were common, it was necessary to be much more careful about idling the engine for long enough to prevent the oil cracking (coking). Once it turns to carbon, it's all over for turbo longevity.......VERY abrasive and low oil flow.

I think the filter should go as no other turbo I have seen or heard of requires these. Letting the turbo cool off before shutting off still has it's merits and I think a lot of failures are due to poor maintenance and/or mechanical sympathy.

[hypnodoc]

Get on to ETM (site sponsor) and get one of his braided lines and big filters that replace the ford crap from the block and the problem becomes non existant, do the coolant line while your at it. The Phoon in Qld was taken to Byrne Ford and their highly skilled mechanical genius's denied that there was even a filter in the system. Gotta make ya wonder. Edited 01/04/09 12:06 PM by hypnodoc

[whysoserious]

Now that's the go mate !!!

I will be changing mine over to that set up ASAP!

Also in regards to the previous comment I did try to heat the pipe up to relieve the carbon deposit also but still didn't get it 100% so yea it's not worth the trouble for piece of mind of $135 for a new pipe I recon.

[timbos99]

Just purchased the external one off ETM, looking at fitting this weekend so just read this entire post... what a read. Anyway when I fit external filter I'll remove standard Ford one, will this mean the warranty be void in case of turbo failure? As remote a possibility is, still sorta concerned.

Also anyone fitted ETM's braided line with external filter, how much hassle was it?

[timbos99]

when fitting external filter I pulled the standard one out... this is what I found, is this different from the BA/BF's? as from what I'd read the filter sounded like a screen not this tube sorta setup.

Also getting the block fitting out was easy, just needed a 24mm deep socket, I came from the top after removing airbox.

Edited 18/06/09 10:25 AM by timbos99