Ralph Wiggum Moar Powar Babeh Lifetime Members 19,323 Member For: 19y 2m 4d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 05/02/08 08:08 AM Author Share Posted 05/02/08 08:08 AM I have worked on big V16 2500hp Quad turbo diesels for years and they never prefilter the turbo supply oils, the engine oil is just filtered thru four big oil filters. Sounds like they have engineered a problem into the bloody oil system,, clowns,,,I will be negotiating this pretrubo oil filter change out every 30,000kms as a part of my lease I am sorting out,,Nothing at all to do with the massive clearnaces in the large plain bearing full floating turbo's?......... Nothing to do with the massive reserve of oil that large medium speed diesels have in there sumps. Nothing to do with schedulded oil sampling being able to trend eng wear and carry out particle counts that will pick up particles much smaller than the clearances in the turbo's prior to eng failure. Nothing to do with turbos being inspected at 4000hr intervals and being changed out prior to failure based on component hours.Ford haven't engineered a problem into the system the bean counters have. thats why this part doesnt get changed every service and this is also why ford specify a 15000k service interval. It makes fleet maintenace cheaper. That is where this problem comes from.Luke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETM Member 1,194 Member For: 17y 8m 15d Gender: Male Location: syd south Posted 05/02/08 09:35 AM Share Posted 05/02/08 09:35 AM nobody but ford uses filters pre turbo,nobody loses turbos due to clogged filters but ford owners.wake up and get rid of your filters!I drilled mine out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHR BOOST Moderating Team 5,698 Member For: 21y 2m 22d Gender: Male Location: Southern Highlands NSW Posted 05/02/08 10:01 PM Share Posted 05/02/08 10:01 PM (edited) It probably wasnt a ford thing you know. Youll probably find that garret requested thisAnyway. Ive been looking through the BA manual and I cant find any informaition on the filter what so ever. There isnt even an image of it Edited 08/02/08 02:26 AM by revheadrobbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattooaddict Member 7 Member For: 16y 11m 13d Gender: Male Location: Cairns Posted 14/03/08 12:46 PM Share Posted 14/03/08 12:46 PM does anyone know how much for the full assembly and can they be bought after market or only from ford. lost the original turbo after 55000km due to a new mechanic using low quality oil, so not taking any chances this time by simply cleaning the oil supply screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanra Into the laaaake Member 1,532 Member For: 17y 5m 13d Gender: Male Location: Nrth Qld Posted 14/03/08 01:05 PM Share Posted 14/03/08 01:05 PM (edited) does anyone know how much for the full assembly and can they be bought after market or only from ford. lost the original turbo after 55000km due to a new mechanic using low quality oil, so not taking any chances this time by simply cleaning the oil supply screen.BA9P424A $65.14 incl GST. Edited 14/03/08 01:06 PM by hanra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic Donating Members 1,725 Member For: 16y 10m 10d Gender: Male Posted 14/03/08 09:17 PM Share Posted 14/03/08 09:17 PM does anyone know how much for the full assembly and can they be bought after market or only from ford. lost the original turbo after 55000km due to a new mechanic using low quality oil, so not taking any chances this time by simply cleaning the oil supply screen.Leave the filter out alltogether man. Dont worry about it, they are like 80 bucks at fraud. You are taking a chance even by putting a new one in as they are so restrictive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanra Into the laaaake Member 1,532 Member For: 17y 5m 13d Gender: Male Location: Nrth Qld Posted 15/03/08 01:34 AM Share Posted 15/03/08 01:34 AM You mean just leave the filter gauze out of the housing assy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETM Member 1,194 Member For: 17y 8m 15d Gender: Male Location: syd south Posted 15/03/08 08:35 AM Share Posted 15/03/08 08:35 AM to everyone who thinks you need this troublesome filter think about this.you trust your oil filter to protect your main bearings,big end bearings,camshafts,cylinder bores,timing chain etc but you think its not good enough to protect your turbo. in that case you are putting your entire engine at massive risk of failure at any minute!!!!!!!the same debris that is trying to kill your turbo will surely wreak havoc on the rest of the engine internals.the fact is its just not needed and can be the cause of catastrophic turbo failure so why risk it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanra Into the laaaake Member 1,532 Member For: 17y 5m 13d Gender: Male Location: Nrth Qld Posted 15/03/08 09:30 AM Share Posted 15/03/08 09:30 AM I agree. Are you suggesting to remove just the gauze screen from the filter assy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETM Member 1,194 Member For: 17y 8m 15d Gender: Male Location: syd south Posted 15/03/08 10:05 AM Share Posted 15/03/08 10:05 AM yes.eliminate the risk involved with oil starvation due to the filter restricting oil flow to the turbo.as I have stated before there is literally thousands of turbos running with no oil filter pre turbo (apart from the regular oil filter) yet I have never heard of such systematic turbo failure due to oil starvation as I have in regards to ford xr6 turbo cars.I drilled mine out as soon as I got my car.no probs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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