Iconic Bionic My engine bay is Bionic Donating Members 3,726 Member For: 18y 8m 2d Gender: Male Location: Freeways Posted 09/01/07 03:50 AM Share Posted 09/01/07 03:50 AM gas is higher octane.. 104? I think.. even though high octane does not directly mean higher powerprobabley because your burn more each stroke? (ok... now I am just guessing )←Yeah ive noticed you do use much more LGP per litre than petrol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCRIBR Yaris member Member 4,486 Member For: 18y 5m Gender: Male Posted 09/01/07 03:54 AM Share Posted 09/01/07 03:54 AM I just looked it up on wikipedia.. said the same thing as GOLDIEthanks for the info! now I understand how higher octane give POTENTIAL for more powerso u do learn something everyday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooch Member 256 Member For: 20y 9m 17d Location: Adelaide Posted 09/01/07 04:37 AM Share Posted 09/01/07 04:37 AM surely this wouldnt be covered under warranty if something went wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinT Donating Members 372 Member For: 19y 9m 20d Posted 09/01/07 04:43 AM Share Posted 09/01/07 04:43 AM (edited) for $4Gz... minus the goverment money.. makes this a very interesting proposistion!Im not really very knowledgeable about gas systems.. and might make a complete a55 of myself buuuuuut.. I understand gas doesnt lubriate your valve seats(?).. so does this have a flow on effect to any parts of the T's engine?←The valves I know are different to the standard 4.0lt engine with Inconel high temp exhaust valves fitted standard to the T.I made enquiries a couple of months ago but was told LPG was not available for the Turbo engines. Nice to see it must be avaliable now.Looked on the APS site but there is no info and they are closed till the 19th Jan. Is there anyone else? Edited 09/01/07 04:45 AM by ColinT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XR06T Silver Donating Members 4,146 Member For: 19y 4m 29d Gender: Male Posted 09/01/07 04:49 AM Share Posted 09/01/07 04:49 AM haha you guys are reminding me of the backfires we used to get out of the old nissan forklifts.. its the funniest sh*t ever. get to max rpm, turn him off at the ignition then as the revs drop flick it back to on and the loudest crack you ever heard ahahahahgave many old timers heart attacks with that one.. not to mention kids falling in bins and jumping for cover.. aaaahhh the memories.back on topic anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venom XR6 Member 1,460 Member For: 21y 6m 26d Location: Geelong Victoria Posted 09/01/07 04:52 AM Share Posted 09/01/07 04:52 AM I don't know anything about converting to gas either, but just wondered if anyone has had any problems with it? I read somewhere a ford engineer said that stronger conrods were needed for the factory BA LPG motor as the DOHC head flows so well, if there's a back fire with LPG you can expect bent rods (SOHC heads wouldn't let enough gas in to cause damage apparently). Have these injected gas systems overcome the backfire possibility?←Its got nothing to do with the heads. Doesn't matter what type of valve setup you run they can all backfire with the old style single point setup. As Ford use the old type if they backfire they will bend standard rods. Was tested and proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guests Posted 09/01/07 04:54 AM Share Posted 09/01/07 04:54 AM watching this post with keen eyes. Particularly interested in economy figures as well as the performance aspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDIE My new toy Lifetime Members 5,344 Member For: 21y 6m 30d Gender: Male Location: stanthorpe wine capital of qld. Posted 09/01/07 05:34 AM Share Posted 09/01/07 05:34 AM for $4Gz... minus the goverment money.. makes this a very interesting proposistion!Im not really very knowledgeable about gas systems.. and might make a complete a55 of myself buuuuuut.. I understand gas doesnt lubriate your valve seats(?).. so does this have a flow on effect to any parts of the T's engine?←The valves I know are different to the standard 4.0lt engine with Inconel high temp exhaust valves fitted standard to the T.I made enquiries a couple of months ago but was told LPG was not available for the Turbo engines. Nice to see it must be avaliable now.Looked on the APS site but there is no info and they are closed till the 19th Jan. Is there anyone else?←As I stated earlier it is not aps that is air power systems it is a different company in frankston called APS Service CentreIan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBOTAXI Member 62 Member For: 17y 10m 14d Posted 10/01/07 09:30 AM Author Share Posted 10/01/07 09:30 AM Have just got home from Sydney.Car is just great, no difference from LPG to Petrol.(except costs)APS knew I wanted to make more power one day and fitted two regulators to the car.Just to give you an idea of the potential here, one of these regulators on an LS1 is known to flow sufficient fuel for 200+ rwkw so I have two!!! :yummy: You can barely see the injectors (they are under the manifold) check out the pics:Boot Install (very neat) I got the 60L useable tank, apparently this is the biggest available for the BA/BF. Hidden injector.2 regulators (1 is good for 200rwkw!)Fuel switchRegarding fule consumption, According to ECU between North Richmond and Bathurst was as follows: (keep in mind that I accidentally forgot to change from manual on both legs and therefore drove in third for quite a while.)Time 1hr 31 minutes Ave speed 80kDistance 136.5Average fuel consumption 11.1l/100k'sThe car used 16.69l of LPG for the trip.16.69L divided by 136.5 (trip distance) is 0.1223 so 0.1223L is average fuel per kilometer.Multiply 1.223 by 100 and that gives 12.227 L/100 average over the trip.Keep in mind on this leg I was overtaking and doing lots of uphill driving.Next leg.Bathurst to Mudgee via Sofala (More hills and corners):ECU (reset when leaving Bx) says:Trip time 1hour 25 minutesAvrage speed 89kDistance 116kAverage fuel consumption 10.7L/100kActual use: 15.137L divided by the distance 116k is 0.13049 per kilometer ( the ambient temp is over 30 degree's celcius at this stage)so that's 13.0494L/100k'sThe last leg I cant really measure because I accidentally drove on petrol for some of the distance.Go the LPG!If you can have power and cheap motoring, why not have both.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBOTAXI Member 62 Member For: 17y 10m 14d Posted 10/01/07 10:31 AM Author Share Posted 10/01/07 10:31 AM Just in case its not incredibly obvious, the car passed the Euro II IMR240 drive cycle test with the RTA at Botany.This is the first emissions legal LPG XR6T in Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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