Ve Commodore Ss/270kw & 530nm

[dingah2]

Come on dry your eyes girls, a standard XR6 T is nowhere near those 5 second numbers regardless, just accept it and move on. There are a host of reasons why individuals choose their chariots and its not just 0-100kph - I could theoretically hose almost anything post mods in a straight line from a standing start but now add the reality of surface, twisty bits, and 1750kg of inertia.......anyway I like my car as is and respect the other guy for wanting to fork out $50k for his choice too.

Dingah

[ENVY-T]

Come on dry your eyes girls, a standard XR6 T is nowhere near those 5 second numbers regardless, just accept it and move on.  There are a host of reasons why individuals choose their chariots and its not just 0-100kph - I could theoretically hose almost anything post mods in a straight line from a standing start but now add the reality of surface, twisty bits, and 1750kg of inertia.......anyway I like my car as is and respect the other guy for wanting to fork out $50k for his choice too.

Dingah

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that's what it comes down to.

And I have only had the chance to run an 06 r8 6ltr and it was the poxy 4 speed auto, and yes the owner was dissappointed in his steed.

On another note, there are some fast stockies out there. On Saturday FatTony and I had a couple of runs a VX that that had edit and exhaust, it was only just infront, and Adams ute was funning factory tune at the time. The VX went on to pull 240+ RWKWS 2 hours later.

[markxr6t]

I drove a VE SS a few weeks ago to see if it was enough to turn me to the dark side. It was great and I couldn't fault it.

However it didn't make me smile as much as my T did (8 psi generic edit) and didn't have anywhere near the mid range brought on by the turbo rush.

Maybe the VE SS would beat my T over the quarter (I never cracked a 13) but its performance is linear which just doesn't light my wick like 4.0 litres + forced induction does.

And for me its whatever makes me smile the most so my next performance car will be a BF + edit and I'll no doubt still do crappy quarter times in it!

[Evil F6]

I drove a VE SS a few weeks ago to see if it was enough to turn me to the dark side. It was great and I couldn't fault it.

However it didn't make me smile as much as my T did (8 psi generic edit) and didn't have anywhere near the mid range brought on by the turbo rush.

Maybe the VE SS would beat my T over the quarter (I never cracked a 13) but its performance is linear which just doesn't light my wick like 4.0 litres + forced induction does.

And for me its whatever makes me smile the most so my next performance car will be a BF + edit and I'll no doubt still do crappy quarter times in it!

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Here's my take. I owned a VT II 5.7 for 6 years. I ended up with ~ 290rwkW and probably 620Nm @ 4400. It was definitely a high 11s car. Although it was quicker than my stock F6, the F6 definitely feels stronger down low, due to the torque being already a max @ 2000. But once the big cam got into full swing the VT would kill it, making power all the way to 6300. However, I have zero doubt that the F6 with 290rwkW would beat the VT due to the massive torque especially in the midrange, where the stock F6 feels very strong.

The new commodores are quite impressive in one way. Although they are 140kg heavier and only have a bit more power and torque, they are much quicker than the VZ. The commodores have always had problem translating power into good times, but the VE really gets all that power down.

I know when I had only had the F6 for a few days I was at the lights when a VE SS came alongside. He got off the line like a scalded cat and really hauled arse. Really surprised me. I didn't try to match him as I was thinking about the warning message about running in the motor for the first 1500km, but I did give it some stick and thought I was going pretty quick, but he was gone.

[wados]

the latest from the car mag wheels is the PCOTY title neither the xr6t or the ss came close, no suprise there. But here are the results from both cars.

VE SS-V

0-100 5.7sec

0-400 13.9sec

0-1000 24.8 sec

winton lap time- 1.43.56 sec

overall 14th

XR6T

0-100 6.0sec

0-400 14.3sec

0-1000 25.6 sec

winton lap time- 1.43.62 sec

overall 16th

either way you look at it is the SS is a fast car and so is the XR and people will buy which ever one they like but, most of the guys (and girls) on this site have modified there car in some way that standard 1/4 times dont mean much, specially when it comes to wheels and motor, just use it as a guide.

[obi]

the latest from the car mag wheels is the PCOTY title neither the xr6t or the ss came close, no suprise there. But here are the results from both cars.

VE SS-V

0-100   5.7sec

0-400   13.9sec

0-1000 24.8 sec

winton lap time- 1.43.56 sec

overall 14th

XR6T

0-100   6.0sec

0-400   14.3sec

0-1000 25.6 sec

winton lap time- 1.43.62 sec

overall 16th

either way you look at it is the SS is a fast car and so is the XR and people will buy which ever one they like but, most of the guys (and girls) on this site have modified there car in some way that standard 1/4 times dont mean much, specially when it comes to wheels and motor, just use it as a guide.

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Makes you wonder what the HP figures & times would be on 95 Ron for the SS !

Edited 09/01/07 07:54 PM by obi

[tmac450]

As previously stated, the mag times are only good for a guide. After reading Motor's, PCOTY I feel that the Holdens were pretty hard done by and their rankings didn't really match the comments or times. The whole report wes pretty unconvincing with the ZF in the T getting bagged for it's operation in the T, but praised in the F6.

Don't forget that the mags were reporting mid 13s times for the VZ SS a short while ago too and Ts have been quoted as anything from 13.7 - 14.8.

Buy what you like, use the mags to give you a basic idea of what is out there and do your own test driving and make your own assesments based on what you feel and compare them to what the mags say. If stock times are your thing then go to the drags and see what times people in the real world are actually getting.

[Iconic Bionic]

I don't think pride comes into it !  I had a BA XR8 auto & it was as slow as a rats a-se untill it hit 4000rpm & then it went. The XR8 develops 260kw & 500nm at 4000rpm & the SS 270kw & 530nm at 4400rpm. Now I know from seat of the pants experience now that I have a XR6T that it is much faster to 100k's than the 8 ever was with the torque comming in at 2000rpm. I personally didn't trade the XR8 just for the sake of it, the T was a more potent car as far as I was concerned up to 100k's. Now I don't know what torque the XR8 or the SS develops at 2000rpm, but I'm sure it's not 480nm like the T. Straight line speed up to the higher limits, yes the SS may do the the XR6T, but slingshot out of corners etc in the real world I would take the T or the Phoon. 

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well I do!

[obi]

I don't think pride comes into it !  I had a BA XR8 auto & it was as slow as a rats a-se untill it hit 4000rpm & then it went. The XR8 develops 260kw & 500nm at 4000rpm & the SS 270kw & 530nm at 4400rpm. Now I know from seat of the pants experience now that I have a XR6T that it is much faster to 100k's than the 8 ever was with the torque comming in at 2000rpm. I personally didn't trade the XR8 just for the sake of it, the T was a more potent car as far as I was concerned up to 100k's. Now I don't know what torque the XR8 or the SS develops at 2000rpm, but I'm sure it's not 480nm like the T. Straight line speed up to the higher limits, yes the SS may do the the XR6T, but slingshot out of corners etc in the real world I would take the T or the Phoon. 

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well I do!

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Where have you been Iconic asleep, that post has been there for two days. I know, "you just want to get more Posts on your tally". Touche ! !

[JBomb3000]

As previously stated, the mag times are only good for a guide.  After reading Motor's, PCOTY I feel that the Holdens were pretty hard done by and their rankings didn't really match the comments or times.  The whole report wes pretty unconvincing with the ZF in the T getting bagged for it's operation in the T, but praised in the F6.

Don't forget that the mags were reporting mid 13s times for the VZ SS a short while ago too and Ts have been quoted as anything from 13.7 - 14.8.

Buy what you like, use the mags to give you a basic idea of what is out there and do your own test driving and make your own assesments based on what you feel and compare them to what the mags say.  If stock times are your thing then go to the drags and see what times people in the real world are actually getting.

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Geeze you've changed your tune, last month you had the mags down on the Expensive Daewoo payroll and now Holden's hard done by