10/2005 Ba Mk11 Xr6t

[Kimberley Scott]

Fords are like women, there are some good ones, and there are some sh*t ones, and alot in between. But that does not turn you off women.

Mate there is nothing there that cant be fixed, it just depends if you have the energy to go through the channels to get them sorted. Best of luck with it.

Scotty

PS if it really pissus you off, take it out on some good road and take it for a thrashing, you will fell better, and it may even make the car better.

[Guest EGOXRT]

Thanks for the support guys, I bought the car from a lady driver (Z plan) with 9000km on the clock. The only thing I pick on the car was the diff shunt, which wasn't bad at the time and I was aware of the problem. Since I have had the car though, slowly but surely things are appearing almost daily. Called my dealer the other day to book in 15,000km service, way in advance and explained some of my issues, there response..... You didn't get one of those lemons did you!!!!

Slowly but surely its also feeling slower and slower, less lively and by no means does it push into the seat. It has become a pain in the ass to have to drive a particular way, to keep shunt to a minimum and the way it decelerates doesn't help. It will be interesting to see what Ford will do with the major engine and turbo noises, as we all know the outcome when it comes to diff shunt

Will keep you all posted anyway as the battle begins next week.

[Bain]

10,093 km never been driven hard.

1. Diff Shunt

2. Noisy gearbox, with factory lubricant.

3. Gudgeon pin noise

4. Steering rack creek

5. Fan belt idler pulley bearing noisy

6. Heatshield noise/vibration

7. Stalling constantly

8. Over idles at when cold

9. Noisy clutch pedal

10. Engines oil leaks, one at turbo oil return and one at turbo feed.

11. Turbo bearings rumble and I mean rumble

12. Creaks in parcel shelf when going over speed humps or turning corners.

13 Etc, Etc, Etc........

14. Ford Falcon can't get enough of it.

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My car has had its fair share of issues.. BUT Ford and the Dealership has fixed every one of them.. My car now runs perfectly (like it should have come from factory)

If its that much of a drama for you, trade it in and buy yourself something Japanese or European because you arent going to find Quality in the Ford and Expensive Daewoo camp unless its imported.

[Guest EGOXRT]

Quality??? More about driveability and reliability.

[RHR]

10,093 km never been driven hard.

1. Diff Shunt Ford No cost option Im onto my 4th Diff

2. Noisy gearbox, with factory lubricant. Put Tranzmax Z in now all good. Makes shift quality better too

3. Gudgeon pin noise how can you tell?? what noise does it make?

4. Steering rack creek there is a TSB (technical service bulletin) on it. DONT LET FORD CHARGE TO FIX IT!!! I can get it for you

5. Fan belt idler pulley bearing noisy Get ford to replace. I had same problem

6. Heatshield noise/vibration get ford to rip it off. Mine gone and no more noise

7. Stalling constantly Needs reflash and throltle body clean. that's a ford job

8. Over idles at when cold NORMAL. it will idle at about 1100rpm for a bit then it will gradualy slow down. LET YOUR CAR WARM UP then go driving

9. Noisy clutch pedal Clutch pedal or thrust bearing??

10. Engines oil leaks, one at turbo oil return and one at turbo feed. Get ford to fix

11. Turbo bearings rumble and I mean rumble normal when cold

12. Creaks in parcel shelf when going over speed humps or turning corners. Turn stereo up cause ford wont fix it

13 Etc, Etc, Etc........

14. Ford Falcon can't get enough of it.

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You also mentioned something about loss of power. Go over the turbo piping and check all the hose clamps. Do it even after ford touch it

Rob

[Guest EGOXRT]

Thanks REVHEADROBBO,

A few things hey you know, can happen in between services. Noisy turbo bearings... are not normal and could have a potentially disastrous outcome. Seems every thing is either normal or within tolerances... We have paid good hard earned money for our cars and to have some knob tell you it is within tolerances or that is normal is utter sh--.

#8. If it was 1100rpm well that is normal but 2000 to 2500 rpm that ain't normal.

#1. What are there drive line engineers deaf dumb or what. They allow dealers to keep replacing diffs and drive shafts with, yes you guest it poorly engineered replacements just like the no cost factory units.

#2. Is it up to me, to replace the factory specified lubricant to one with better lubricating qualities, to mask the fact these boxes have again been poorly engineered????

Maybe most people don't want to deal with these issues, and accept the fact that most of these cars are problematic, no way, not me.

Ford customer care also informs me that I have to pay for a courtesy car while mine is away for ..... weeks to resolve these WARRANTY issues. They stuff up and we still have to pay, do you think that is normal as well???

Just annoys me to see so many just accept it and GET OVER IT.

[RHR]

A few things hey you know, can happen in between services.  Noisy turbo bearings... are not normal and could have a potentially disastrous outcome. Seems every thing is either normal or within tolerances... We have paid good hard earned money for our cars and to have some knob tell you it is within tolerances or that is normal is utter sh--.

Is the turbo only noisy at start up. If I start the car then turn it off (when cold(not good for car btw)) Mine is also noisy but at running temp its ok. I can still hear it spinning when I turn the car off when its at running temp

#8. If it was 1100rpm well that is normal but 2000 to 2500 rpm that ain't normal.

No not normal as I said get the throtle body cleaned and a reflash ford will do this. dont forget to check your hoses

#1. What are there drive line engineers deaf dumb or what. They allow dealers to keep replacing diffs and drive shafts with, yes you guest it poorly engineered replacements just like the no cost factory units.

It would sh!t you more to find out that the new diff they put in my car are actually reconditioned not new

#2. Is it up to me, to replace the factory specified lubricant to one with better lubricating qualities, to mask the fact these boxes have again been poorly engineered???? 

  they are not poorly engineered. Apparently the T's dont have the best idle. Yes you will have to buy Castrol transmax Z. it is a little $$ at $80 for 4litres but its damn good

Do your self a favour and dont take it to ford for servicing. they charge way too much. Myself and Iconic Bionic go to a bloke in Rockdale Sydney and he will actually find faults for you. If your in syd I can PM you the details.

Maybe most people don't want to deal with these issues, and accept the fact that most of these cars are problematic, no way, not me.

Ford customer care also informs me that I have to pay for a courtesy car while mine is away for ..... weeks to resolve these WARRANTY issues. They stuff up and we still have to pay, do you think that is normal as well???

Yeah it sucks but you cant do much. You could have a chat to the dealer principle but I dont like your chances

[4ST-XR6]

A few things hey you know, can happen in between services.  Noisy turbo bearings... are not normal and could have a potentially disastrous outcome. Seems every thing is either normal or within tolerances... We have paid good hard earned money for our cars and to have some knob tell you it is within tolerances or that is normal is utter sh--.

Is the turbo only noisy at start up. If I start the car then turn it off (when cold(not good for car btw)) Mine is also noisy but at running temp its ok. I can still hear it spinning when I turn the car off when its at running temp

#8. If it was 1100rpm well that is normal but 2000 to 2500 rpm that ain't normal.

No not normal as I said get the throtle body cleaned and a reflash ford will do this. dont forget to check your hoses

#1. What are there drive line engineers deaf dumb or what. They allow dealers to keep replacing diffs and drive shafts with, yes you guest it poorly engineered replacements just like the no cost factory units.

It would sh!t you more to find out that the new diff they put in my car are actually reconditioned not new

#2. Is it up to me, to replace the factory specified lubricant to one with better lubricating qualities, to mask the fact these boxes have again been poorly engineered???? 

  they are not poorly engineered. Apparently the T's dont have the best idle. Yes you will have to buy Castrol transmax Z. it is a little $$ at $80 for 4litres but its damn good

Do your self a favour and dont take it to ford for servicing. they charge way too much. Myself and Iconic Bionic go to a bloke in Rockdale Sydney and he will actually find faults for you. If your in syd I can PM you the details.

Maybe most people don't want to deal with these issues, and accept the fact that most of these cars are problematic, no way, not me.

Ford customer care also informs me that I have to pay for a courtesy car while mine is away for ..... weeks to resolve these WARRANTY issues. They stuff up and we still have to pay, do you think that is normal as well???

Yeah it sucks but you cant do much. You could have a chat to the dealer principle but I dont like your chances

If you know somewhere the vehicle will rattle, you can test drive with a tech and show them the exact noise your complaining of, that way the tech working on your car cant just drive it on a smooth road and say that there is no problem. With your idle there is also a TSB, but change your complaint to rough idle and stalling, then they have to monitor pids in the datalogger and if the pids are out of spec they clean the throttle body, reset the KAM (keep alive memory) which are the strategies for things like fuel and idle etc, and then they normally check for a later PCM calibration, turbos do have a rough idle normally but tend to smooth out with the A/C and headlights on, due to the engine being under more load. All the other things you are complaining about are easily fixed also, say that you have a clunk in the rear end, they should check the for radial movement in the cv joints in the rear axles,as there are revised axles, and also check the diff. If its a sedan with under 80 000km you will get a new diff, more than 80 000 and it gets a rebuild. Your steering complaint is fixed easily, as stated previously, a tsb is relevant. Your engine leaks will be fixed under warranty unless your vehilce has been blacked flagged. If it has you should have been prepared to foot the bill for these items when you chose to modify. The t5's are noisy but ford doesn't seem to think its a mojor concern, until enough people complain, nothing will happen. jsut keep asking about it everytime you take it in.

[Guest EGOXRT]

Hopefully I won't have to many problems but from the phone conversations, it looks like a battle is looming. For a vehicle that has under 11,000km it drives worse than my 300,000 km XF that has been used to tow boats most of its life and is thrashed almost everyday.

[RHR]

TSB's for ya

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