Paradoxx Colossal Member Member 5,049 Member For: 20y 9m 14d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 16/11/06 04:46 AM Share Posted 16/11/06 04:46 AM It's all a learning process, and it is people like Al that everyone else benefits from. Like a tuner who tinkers with the PCM, al has tried almost every conceivable modification available over the last few years, and a lot have already benefited from his "R&D" so to speak.If the ZF fits in the gap, then I reckon there will be a few people on this forum to take his lead!If it doesnt fit, nothing a little "massaging" can't fix Whats the difference between a BF block with a 4sp auto and a BF Block with a 6sp auto? From what I understand Al currently has a BF bottom end yes? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/30284-ba-to-be-bfed/page/3/#findComment-465079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 19y 11d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 16/11/06 08:42 AM Share Posted 16/11/06 08:42 AM XXXR6T said: It's all a learning process, and it is people like Al that everyone else benefits from. Like a tuner who tinkers with the PCM, al has tried almost every conceivable modification available over the last few years, and a lot have already benefited from his "R&D" so to speak.If the ZF fits in the gap, then I reckon there will be a few people on this forum to take his lead!If it doesnt fit, nothing a little "massaging" can't fix Whats the difference between a BF block with a 4sp auto and a BF Block with a 6sp auto? From what I understand Al currently has a BF bottom end yes?←I've heard the trans tunnel is different on the BF's to accomodate the 6 speed, but I can't imagine a new floor being remade on really just a model upgrade which is what the BF was.Good luck and keep us informed Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/30284-ba-to-be-bfed/page/3/#findComment-465164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninka Donating Members 1,850 Member For: 22y 5m 15d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 16/11/06 08:46 AM Author Share Posted 16/11/06 08:46 AM ratter said: I've heard the trans tunnel is different on the BF's to accomodate the 6 speed, but I can't imagine a new floor being remade on really just a model upgrade which is what the BF was.Good luck and keep us informed←I agree, and if you look inside the car, a larger tunnel would mean the centre console would have to be different as well, and from what I have been able to see, the BF's look identical to the BA'sTime will tell Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/30284-ba-to-be-bfed/page/3/#findComment-465165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 9m 19d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 16/11/06 09:10 AM Share Posted 16/11/06 09:10 AM Good stuff Whiskas :spoton:Like many others, I will watch with interest......Got to love the pioneering spirit of you guys. At the end of the day we all learn so much Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/30284-ba-to-be-bfed/page/3/#findComment-465178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MUCHKW Member 350 Member For: 19y 1m 19d Posted 16/11/06 09:51 AM Share Posted 16/11/06 09:51 AM Ninka said: ratter said: I've heard the trans tunnel is different on the BF's to accomodate the 6 speed, but I can't imagine a new floor being remade on really just a model upgrade which is what the BF was.Good luck and keep us informed←I agree, and if you look inside the car, a larger tunnel would mean the centre console would have to be different as well, and from what I have been able to see, the BF's look identical to the BA'sTime will tell ←Brave man,Might be very wise to purchase the whole BF Tornado from FGS cause your gonna need allot of bits besides just the box ... then sell off whats left!!!!Try-BF ZF Tailshaft-BF ZF Crossmember-BF ZF Trans cooler pipe work assembly from heater box-BF PCM-BF Complete engine/trans wiring harness-BF ZF Throttle kickdown switch-BF Throttle pedal assembly-BF ZF shifter assembly & surround -AND upon asking Simon @ Nizpro regarding a ZF auto BA upgrade he stated the BF PCM requires a BF motor TOO for it requires the revised knock sensors and something else to function properly Dont let all this phase you though coz I've upgraded to a BF ZF speed!!!See pic below as to how I did it Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/30284-ba-to-be-bfed/page/3/#findComment-465197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaine HgAg soldier Member 253 Member For: 21y 10m 25d Gender: Male Posted 16/11/06 10:11 AM Share Posted 16/11/06 10:11 AM where theres a will, theres a way.. Good luck Al, I'm sure u will keep us up to date with your progress. Kaine Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/30284-ba-to-be-bfed/page/3/#findComment-465205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8TOADS Silver Donating Members 3,618 Member For: 19y 10m 30d Gender: Male Location: OZ Posted 16/11/06 10:33 AM Share Posted 16/11/06 10:33 AM If he doesnt try, he'll get bored and do something else anyway so why not attempt the 6sp!!! My mate in Qld has 2 t's a 6sp auto and a 4sp auto and believe it or not he prefers the 4sp... don't ask me why!!Should keep you entertained anyway.... oh and Al will find a way. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/30284-ba-to-be-bfed/page/3/#findComment-465216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninka Donating Members 1,850 Member For: 22y 5m 15d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 16/11/06 10:35 AM Author Share Posted 16/11/06 10:35 AM (edited) 2MUCHKW said: Brave man,Might be very wise to purchase the whole BF Tornado from FGS cause your gonna need allot of bits besides just the box ... then sell off whats left!!!!Try-BF ZF Tailshaft - Easy as the tailshaft can be bought in bits and pieces-BF ZF Crossmember - Got it-BF ZF Trans cooler pipe work assembly from heater box - Got it-BF PCM - New from Ford-BF Complete engine/trans wiring harness - New from Ford-BF ZF Throttle kickdown switch - TBD-BF Throttle pedal assembly TBD-BF ZF shifter assembly & surround - Got it-AND upon asking Simon @ Nizpro regarding a ZF auto BA upgrade he stated the BF PCM requires a BF motor TOO for it requires the revised knock sensors and something else to function properly Not too difficult I thinkDont let all this phase you though coz I've upgraded to a BF ZF speed!!!See pic below as to how I did it ←Congratulations on your ZF 6 Speed, do you want to compare cost and depriciation He who laughs last, laughs best Edited 16/11/06 10:41 AM by Ninka Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/30284-ba-to-be-bfed/page/3/#findComment-465219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6 UTE - Track Bound EVO III - Member 3,367 Member For: 20y 5m 23d Gender: Male Location: Strapped in and holding on Posted 16/11/06 10:38 AM Share Posted 16/11/06 10:38 AM May the force(d induction ) be with you....................................................... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/30284-ba-to-be-bfed/page/3/#findComment-465220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest newl Guests Posted 16/11/06 10:43 AM Share Posted 16/11/06 10:43 AM Al, you my friend, are insane. Watching you go through these motions with your T has been enjoyable and I'm sure that we'll enjoy this next stage of the journey. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/30284-ba-to-be-bfed/page/3/#findComment-465223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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