Force 6 And 8

[Cro]

To the people who are bagging the Force 6 and 8.

Instead of shooting from the hip, just try and grasp the bigger picture: With a broke parent in the US sucking the liquidity out of local operations, FPV/Ford Australia isn't exactly flush with funds. But, for a relatively small investment they've come up with two new models which widen the appeal of the FPV range to a whole new market. That's smart thinking, smart manufacturing, smart marketing. That's the kind of smarts that will keep FPV alive and flourishing and producing the GT/P and Typhoon/Tornado cars YOU love.

Secondly, my companies own a Fiesta, a Fairmont S/wagon, a Fairmont Ghia, and a Typhoon. I have a business partner who's never owned a Ford before. He drives a Zed and Merc. Until today (well, yesterday, cos its after midnight now) when he test drove a Force 6 and BOUGHT it right away 'cos it offers him the right package of prestige looks and performance. So now we have a new Ford/FPV convert (and a complete Ford stable) thanks entirely to the design smarts behind the Force 6.

Third, we went for a fang round town today (yesterday), him in the Force 6, me in the Typhoon. I was able to check it out from every angle while underway on the road, and the FPV stylists have excelled themselves. The Force 6 looks like it owns the road. It is a complete, integrated Euro-lux package. Solid, posessive and balsy. The wheels in shadow chrome are amazing in rotation - a soft silver blur with the big red brembos and rotors clear as daylight behind them. I got to get the steadycam rig set up and film them, they're that lovely. The interior with the dark tones and dark woodgrain looks a lot more coherent in design terms than the Typhoon with its bits of stick-on imitation carbon fibre. The car in motion, from the rear 3/4, has the look of a big solid, purposeful European performance limo. It PROWLS! Whatever YOU think, this car is a statement in power and subtlety - because not everyone who'd got it wants to let it all hang out. In my colleague's words: "With an edit, this will be a $200,000 car for 70 grand."

Finally, just 'cos YOU can't imagine a market for these cars, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. According to media reports, FPV has sold one third of the ANNUAL production of Force 6 and 8s in just ten days. TEN DAYS! So my message is, if YOU don't like 'em, just don't buy 'em. Fine! But stop bagging 'em 'cos in the bigger scheme of things, they're helping keep FPV viable, which is good for YOU.

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All good and well, but why do they lie and try to pass it off as a luxury car when it is clearly nothing but a performance car.

[saleen]

To the people who are bagging the Force 6 and 8.

Instead of shooting from the hip, just try and grasp the bigger picture: With a broke parent in the US sucking the liquidity out of local operations, FPV/Ford Australia isn't exactly flush with funds. But, for a relatively small investment they've come up with two new models which widen the appeal of the FPV range to a whole new market. That's smart thinking, smart manufacturing, smart marketing. That's the kind of smarts that will keep FPV alive and flourishing and producing the GT/P and Typhoon/Tornado cars YOU love.

Secondly, my companies own a Fiesta, a Fairmont S/wagon, a Fairmont Ghia, and a Typhoon. I have a business partner who's never owned a Ford before. He drives a Zed and Merc. Until today (well, yesterday, cos its after midnight now) when he test drove a Force 6 and BOUGHT it right away 'cos it offers him the right package of prestige looks and performance. So now we have a new Ford/FPV convert (and a complete Ford stable) thanks entirely to the design smarts behind the Force 6.

Third, we went for a fang round town today (yesterday), him in the Force 6, me in the Typhoon. I was able to check it out from every angle while underway on the road, and the FPV stylists have excelled themselves. The Force 6 looks like it owns the road. It is a complete, integrated Euro-lux package. Solid, posessive and balsy. The wheels in shadow chrome are amazing in rotation - a soft silver blur with the big red brembos and rotors clear as daylight behind them. I got to get the steadycam rig set up and film them, they're that lovely. The interior with the dark tones and dark woodgrain looks a lot more coherent in design terms than the Typhoon with its bits of stick-on imitation carbon fibre. The car in motion, from the rear 3/4, has the look of a big solid, purposeful European performance limo. It PROWLS! Whatever YOU think, this car is a statement in power and subtlety - because not everyone who'd got it wants to let it all hang out. In my colleague's words: "With an edit, this will be a $200,000 car for 70 grand."

Finally, just 'cos YOU can't imagine a market for these cars, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. According to media reports, FPV has sold one third of the ANNUAL production of Force 6 and 8s in just ten days. TEN DAYS! So my message is, if YOU don't like 'em, just don't buy 'em. Fine! But stop bagging 'em 'cos in the bigger scheme of things, they're helping keep FPV viable, which is good for YOU.

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All good and well, but why do they lie and try to pass it off as a luxury car when it is clearly nothing but a performance car.

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loL@veedubs

[ZAP]

It IS a luxury car and a performance car

I do not really see the point in the Force cars, but if FPV has made a new market for their products, then it is a good thing

Cro, what makes you say that it is not a luxury car ?

They have all the boxes ticked to make it a luxury sports cruiser, although so does my F6

[Cro]

It IS a luxury car and a performance car

I do not really see the point in the Force cars, but if FPV has made a new market for their products, then it is a good thing

Cro, what makes you say that it is not a luxury car ?

They have all the boxes ticked to make it a luxury sports cruiser, although so does my F6

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Zap, to quote the FPV site "The new Force 6 and Force 8. Premium Luxury."

Fully optioned BMW, Lexus , Mercedes, Audi, etc.. are examples of Premium Luxury cars.

Those cars without options are still luxury cars, and for the same price as the Force models.

As I've said in a previous post...

Where are the heated/cooled seats, auto dimming mirrors, decent sound system with mp3/wma, DTS and Dolby Digital DVD player option, auto up/down windows, reversing camera, keyless entry and start, rain sensing wipers, bi-xenon lights, front and rear parking sensors, stability control, rear airbags, curtain airbags, etc...

Electric vynil (passed off as leather) seats with memory, and climate control does not make it a luxury car, let alone a premium luxury car.

Sure to some bogan decked out in his/hers finest Ford racing gear from Target the idea of vynil seats makes the Force models a luxury car. FPV however will never see their money unless they win the lottery.

I'm prepared to spend 75oddk on a car, and I was hoping FPV would have specced up the Force models as they are being touted as Premium Luxury.

If they were even luxury cars I'd probably be driving one right now.

[tmac450]

It IS a luxury car and a performance car

I do not really see the point in the Force cars, but if FPV has made a new market for their products, then it is a good thing

Cro, what makes you say that it is not a luxury car ?

They have all the boxes ticked to make it a luxury sports cruiser, although so does my F6

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Zap, to quote the FPV site "The new Force 6 and Force 8. Premium Luxury."

Fully optioned BMW, Lexus , Mercedes, Audi, etc.. are examples of Premium Luxury cars.

Those cars without options are still luxury cars, and for the same price as the Force models.

As I've said in a previous post...

Where are the heated/cooled seats, auto dimming mirrors, decent sound system with mp3/wma, DTS and Dolby Digital DVD player option, auto up/down windows, reversing camera, keyless entry and start, rain sensing wipers, bi-xenon lights, front and rear parking sensors, stability control, rear airbags, curtain airbags, etc...

Electric vynil (passed off as leather) seats with memory, and climate control does not make it a luxury car, let alone a premium luxury car.

Sure to some bogan decked out in his/hers finest Ford racing gear from Target the idea of vynil seats makes the Force models a luxury car. FPV however will never see their money unless they win the lottery.

I'm prepared to spend 75oddk on a car, and I was hoping FPV would have specced up the Force models as they are being touted as Premium Luxury.

If they were even luxury cars I'd probably be driving one right now.

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Here, here, no one is sayin ther is no market for these cars, but Ford's effort has been a token one. The cars look too close to the existing models (they need their oWn styling, not an existing GT front end). And like Cro says, they need some real luxury features, even the top Camry's and Corollas come with Sat Nav. They might be selling OK, but they could be selling more.

HSV's luxury models are there to entice potential Euro buyers, FPV seem to be just whispering, "Hey, we've got one too."

[Slymeat]

It IS a luxury car and a performance car

I do not really see the point in the Force cars, but if FPV has made a new market for their products, then it is a good thing

Cro, what makes you say that it is not a luxury car ?

They have all the boxes ticked to make it a luxury sports cruiser, although so does my F6

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Zap, to quote the FPV site "The new Force 6 and Force 8. Premium Luxury."

Fully optioned BMW, Lexus , Mercedes, Audi, etc.. are examples of Premium Luxury cars.

Those cars without options are still luxury cars, and for the same price as the Force models.

As I've said in a previous post...

Where are the heated/cooled seats, auto dimming mirrors, decent sound system with mp3/wma, DTS and Dolby Digital DVD player option, auto up/down windows, reversing camera, keyless entry and start, rain sensing wipers, bi-xenon lights, front and rear parking sensors, stability control, rear airbags, curtain airbags, etc...

Electric vynil (passed off as leather) seats with memory, and climate control does not make it a luxury car, let alone a premium luxury car.

Sure to some bogan decked out in his/hers finest Ford racing gear from Target the idea of vynil seats makes the Force models a luxury car. FPV however will never see their money unless they win the lottery.

I'm prepared to spend 75oddk on a car, and I was hoping FPV would have specced up the Force models as they are being touted as Premium Luxury.

If they were even luxury cars I'd probably be driving one right now.

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Hey that makes me a bogan.,

[Slymeat]

You are right in someways, they do need more but remember then there would be more cost. It's the same as the Typhoon, they are not all that different to the T but hell I still want one.

[Cro]

You are right in someways, they do need more but remember then there would be more cost. It's the same as the Typhoon, they are not all that different to the T but hell I still want one.

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They should have them as options, and if people want them they can pay for them.

Hell, if their build quality, materials, and customer service significantly improvedI'd pay up to 100k.

If I had the budget.

[937]

You are right in someways, they do need more but remember then there would be more cost. It's the same as the Typhoon, they are not all that different to the T but hell I still want one.

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They should have them as options, and if people want them they can pay for them.

Hell, if their build quality, materials, and customer service significantly improvedI'd pay up to 100k.

If I had the budget.

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I went to see my Ford dealer last Tuesday to have a look @ the Force 6.

It's a F6 minus the Rear Wing but over 10,000.00 $$'s more.

If I am in the market for a big BMW or Mercedes, I am not about to go and see a Ford or Expensive Daewoo Dealer am I.??

I think People with big money like to see that " Badge / Star " on the Bonnet.

The rest of us just have to go to Ford or Holden.

[tmac450]

You are right in someways, they do need more but remember then there would be more cost. It's the same as the Typhoon, they are not all that different to the T but hell I still want one.

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At least the Phoon has its own look and more power (edit and mods aside).

I think the idea is good, just executed poorly.