Capa Flash Not So Stealth

[ritzy]

Ive given the proof, do with it what you like.... personally when I piss off the xr8 and get into a BF turbo first thing ill do it get it edited,... but I shouldnt have a problem with warranty claims, since ill be the tech working on it

LOL. Everyone on the forum will want to come to your ford dealership.

How about for the BA? There has been a few ppl that have said it can in the BF but not in the BA. Wonder if that's true or not.

If you tell them about the edit what wont be covered?

Not that it's gonna stop me either way as I'm getting a edit ASAP.

[SCRIBR]

nuttin like cheating the system @ work!

[Fat-Tony]

Who cares, the warranty aint worth the paper its written on half the time.

[ritzy]

that's half the reason why most ppl dont feel bad to take them for what they are worth.

They are a corporate. The local mechanic I don't think many ppl would want much from them.

If I have an edit or other mod and something breaks. They better have good proof as to how my edit or mod made it happen. Coz I'd go the whole way with them.

If it's obviously the edit's or mods fault I would wear it with out issue. Only if they do the weasel thing and try and get out of it coz they are big.

One thing though is both my brothers have Expensive Daewoo utes. One's a SS and the other is a maloo. Both have had multiple engine rebuilds. Gearboxes and driveline works.

Most know the 5.6l has issues.

One dealer would try and weasel out of it time and time again. Where finally they went to another dealer who looked it all over and said they would fix it all under warranty as it's what's warranty is for. The dealer said like it matters either way because if it the customers fault they get paid and if it's Holden's problem they get paid.

Generally if it's a warranty claim they have a fixed price to work off and get paid. If it's a customer job price is dropped and argued over.

I've had the same thing also multiple times with company cars. In the end with my company car I used another mechanic and only went to ford for claims. Much easier when you have paper work from a mechanic saying what the problem is. Less chance of them talking sh*t.

So my advice is if your dealer sux. Try another one that is fairer or try a local mechanic that does handbook services or even claims.

Edited 14/05/07 12:20 PM by ritzy

[45T-XR]

Anyone got a date for this 'anti-edit' flash update??

ie from when did this start happening?

I was working a mechanic for ford up until last week and didn't hear anything about so they must have kept if quiet, I will go have to chat to the boys and see what they have...If anything

[tmac450]

A mechanic friend of mine has his own diognistic computer which he can use on most cars.

Form what I've been told from a reliable source, the only evidence Ford can seek from a BF is a date the ECU was accessed. If is doesn't match their records for Ford servicing, they can question it, but can't tell if it was a local mechanic just doing a regular service, or a reflash, or if the Ford dealer simply forgot to log the last time the hooked the car up.

All it comes down to is another tool for Ford to try and bluff an admission out of you. It is not proof, and certainly not something that would stand up to legal scrutiny.

[45T-XR]

A mechanic friend of mine has his own diognistic computer which he can use on most cars.

Form what I've been told from a reliable source, the only evidence Ford can seek from a BF is a date the ECU was accessed. If is doesn't match their records for Ford servicing, they can question it, but can't tell if it was a local mechanic just doing a regular service, or a reflash, or if the Ford dealer simply forgot to log the last time the hooked the car up.

All it comes down to is another tool for Ford to try and bluff an admission out of you. It is not proof, and certainly not something that would stand up to legal scrutiny.

Ford cant tell "when" the car was accessed by the scan tools in ba, like I said its only if the pcm has the latest calibration and the like, In bf however if the pcm is suspected of a flash it can be checked to see how many downloads and uploads from and to the pcm, so basically if the number of those dont match up with the number of factory flashes that have occured then that's pretty conclusive, you cant alter alter the record in the pcm, or that's what the queenslans service operations co-ordinator told me last time he was at our ford dealership

[SCRIBR]

just give up on your warranty people.. everything I wanted them to fix they told me its "within spec"

[ritzy]

just give up on your warranty people.. everything I wanted them to fix they told me its "within spec"

Hearing ya there. My car is 20,000 old and brakes where F@$#ed.

They reckon it's normal for a car 20,000 km old to need the disc's machining.

He goes pads look 50% worn just disc need machining. How much. A few hundred I was quoted from that nob.

I said NOPE to that.

Went to a local bloke who machined, cleaned and realigned them. $66 dollars.

Point made. Use them as little as possible.

If something breaks get it fixed properly.

[tmac450]

Hearing ya there. My car is 20,000 old and brakes where F@$#ed.

They reckon it's normal for a car 20,000 km old to need the disc's machining.

He goes pads look 50% worn just disc need machining. How much. A few hundred I was quoted from that nob.

I said NOPE to that.

Went to a local bloke who machined, cleaned and realigned them. $66 dollars.

Point made. Use them as little as possible.

If something breaks get it fixed properly.

Agreed, they've been doing it for years. I put my AUII ute in because of a front end clunk under braking. They charged me $100 because they found a loose bolt on the front sway bar. They told me warranty doesn't cover loose bolts, but the car only had 6,000ks on the clock. If that's not a manufacturing fault, I don't know what is.

Now my BF is 11,000kms old and it's got a knock in the stering at slow speeds. I'm just going to get my mechanic tighten it when he does the 15,000 service. Why is it that Ford can't tighten bolts properly, haven't they heard of Loctite. I have owned around 20 cars, including 4 Falcons, and it's only the Falcons that have bolts go loose in the first 10,000 odd ks. Obviously Ford has a problem with bolt tightening, so instead of fixing the issue on the production line, they simply stop covering it under warranty. Nice one!!

Fark this Play you pay rule, if this is their attitude, they deserve to be stung!!! We'll play fair when they do. (My car is stock by the way).