replicant Member 180 Member For: 19y 2m 30d Posted 27/10/06 06:06 AM Share Posted 27/10/06 06:06 AM P Zero's prefer to run without any camber (which is why the EB GT had some geometry tweaks to accomodate them) and take a while to warm up. They are also relatively expensive and the P Zero Nero is classified in Europe as a 'Summer' Tyre and is not intended for use at very cold temperatures or on snow or ice. DOT Ratings for this tyre are Treadwear in 245 35 YR19 is 220 with AA for Traction and A for Temperature with a 91 Load Factor.The Dunlop Sport Maxx in 245 35 19 is a Y Rated Tyre with 240 treadwear, and the same AA for traction and A for temperature and has a 93 Load Factor. Again a Euro Summer tyre - which should be okay unless you are up in the mountains a lot.I don't have specs for the Toyos or that particular Goodyear tyre. I confess that I have a preference for Yokos and Bridgestones generally and Continental or Michelin depending on the car...However, this is one of those purchases that you have to rely on trust... and I know happy Toyo shod owners, Pirelli owners and Bridgestone owners... look for someone who pedals similar to you and ask them I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupperware Member 113 Member For: 22y 1m 12d Location: South Brizzy Posted 27/10/06 08:01 AM Share Posted 27/10/06 08:01 AM I've had the Goodyear GS-D3 F1s for a while now and found them to be the quietest tyre I've had so far. Good wet tyre and have pulled a 1.8 60' so they fairly good in the dry too. I'd buy em again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltint Member 686 Member For: 21y 9m 19d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast QLD Posted 27/10/06 02:01 PM Author Share Posted 27/10/06 02:01 PM (edited) The maxxis MA-Z1 is not a track tyre but very good in the wet. Came 3rd in the Motor tyre test and 80 bucks cheaper than the Sports maxx.←I would buy Maxxis tyres in a heartbeat as a good cheap all rounder but alas they don't make them in 19" as far as I know.Big AL Edited 27/10/06 02:02 PM by cooltint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltint Member 686 Member For: 21y 9m 19d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast QLD Posted 27/10/06 02:04 PM Author Share Posted 27/10/06 02:04 PM Wouldn't piss on any of them...Michelin Pilot Preceda 2, Pirelli P Zero Nero would be the best of the cheaper options.Michelin Pilot Sport 2, Pirelli P Zero Rosso would be the top of line.←This would be the ideal situation if I had unlimited funds, but I like to drive my car and can't afford to tear up that many dollars.Big AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltint Member 686 Member For: 21y 9m 19d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast QLD Posted 27/10/06 02:09 PM Author Share Posted 27/10/06 02:09 PM P Zero's prefer to run without any camber (which is why the EB GT had some geometry tweaks to accomodate them) and take a while to warm up. They are also relatively expensive and the P Zero Nero is classified in Europe as a 'Summer' Tyre and is not intended for use at very cold temperatures or on snow or ice. DOT Ratings for this tyre are Treadwear in 245 35 YR19 is 220 with AA for Traction and A for Temperature with a 91 Load Factor.The Dunlop Sport Maxx in 245 35 19 is a Y Rated Tyre with 240 treadwear, and the same AA for traction and A for temperature and has a 93 Load Factor. Again a Euro Summer tyre - which should be okay unless you are up in the mountains a lot.I don't have specs for the Toyos or that particular Goodyear tyre. I confess that I have a preference for Yokos and Bridgestones generally and Continental or Michelin depending on the car...However, this is one of those purchases that you have to rely on trust... and I know happy Toyo shod owners, Pirelli owners and Bridgestone owners... look for someone who pedals similar to you and ask them I guess.←The spec's for the Toyo are very similar to the Sport Maxx with the Treadwear indicator of 280 I think from memory. They also have a harder compound on the outside edge of the tyre which is the reason I have to buy tyres in the first place. I would easily get another 2,000 - 3,000km out of the Dunlop 9000's if not for the shoulder wear.This is why I'm leaning towards the Toyo.Big AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr6 Member 96 Member For: 20y 1m 11d Posted 27/10/06 02:22 PM Share Posted 27/10/06 02:22 PM The Goodyear's are magic in the wet - more grip than the OEM Dunlops had on dry roads! The shoulders are pretty solid as the grooves don't go right to the edge. Improved the steering as well - very good turn in, and no understeer.Only problem I've had is slight vibration through the steering wheel above 120 on smooth roads, which my tyre dealer can't get rid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP300 Donating Members 842 Member For: 19y 4m 26d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 27/10/06 02:23 PM Share Posted 27/10/06 02:23 PM Choose the Dunlops ... They smoke up better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltint Member 686 Member For: 21y 9m 19d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast QLD Posted 28/10/06 08:03 AM Author Share Posted 28/10/06 08:03 AM Choose the Dunlops ... They smoke up better!←You're so right there I've found that out on more than one occasion without even really trying.Big AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltint Member 686 Member For: 21y 9m 19d Gender: Male Location: Gold Coast QLD Posted 30/10/06 02:36 PM Author Share Posted 30/10/06 02:36 PM I was reading a similar thread and it was suggested that Falken FK452 are worth a look. I was quoted $330 on these but dismissed them as I'd heard so many bad reports about the current crop of Falkens.Has anyone had much experience with these tyres as they are apparently a new design.Big AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil F6 Donating Members 830 Member For: 19y 30d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 30/10/06 09:46 PM Share Posted 30/10/06 09:46 PM I was reading a similar thread and it was suggested that Falken FK452 are worth a look. I was quoted $330 on these but dismissed them as I'd heard so many bad reports about the current crop of Falkens.Has anyone had much experience with these tyres as they are apparently a new design.Big AL←A dealer told me yesterday that he normally wouldn't piss on the Falkens either but was adamant these new Falkens are good, wet or dry. Saw a US forum where they were getting a good wrap. I'd be more inclined to use them than the Toyo T1-R say.What about the Yokohama Advan V103, they are price competitive with the Dumlop and Goodyear, might be softer though, and come in a much larger range of sizes than those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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