Spotted P Plater 388rwkw Bf Xr6 Turbo

[Guest newl]

most crash's are SPEED related which is really errelvant to the power because any car can go fast.

I'd like to see the statistics to back that one up. That almost might be akin to saying that speed is the number one cause of all road fatalities when it isn't.

[Guest]

Irrespective of where the money comes from the fact remains that modded ,these are very powerful cars and therefore potential death traps, particularly for younger and more inexperienced drivers.

There are some of the older brigade on here who have been there done that and have still bent panels in these things and HAVE BEEN LUCKY myself included

Don't think you younger guys are infallible .... you are not. Unfortunately one day  ( hopefully not) we will all read some tragic news on this very site , where ambition has exceeded ability.

Just remember that these things will become more and more accessible to younger drivers in coming years. That fact alone makes me very nervous

Add some mods and inexperience you have a very nasty recipe.

Stay safe guys

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I would rather my son or daughter drive a late model falcon or commadore than an old corolla or charade, if they want to be stupid they will regardless of car. Atleast in a late model performance car they are in a car designed to survive serious impact's.

I've been charged with some serious driving offences in the last month and will loose my licence for the best part of 5 year's, I belive 1oo% that if I was in an older less capable car I along with 5 of my mates would be dead right now. I made a stupid decision which has cost me basically everything I've spent the last few year's working for and now I need to live with it. The fact that im 21 and driving a modified performance car meant nothing, I'd still have made that same decision regardless.

[jEtONiT]

come on jewels.. your just saying that 'cause you're getting old

by the way the fact is as you get older, your mentality and perception of young drivers changes. You seem to think that p-platers are completely hopeless and should all drive corollas.

and one more thing, older drivers are having accidents racing too, but we never seem to hear about them on the news.. the media mainly focuses on the younger drivers.

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Unfortunately that’s the attitude that gets anyone in to trouble. I’m far from the age of some of these guys, but have seen enough carnage to be realistic about things.

Not sure if your post was intended as a piss-take or not, if so it was good, if not grow the f*ck up you moron

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Mate im just being realistic here.. Not ALL speed-related crashes are p-plater incidents, but the media seems to focus more on them.

by the way the fact is as you get older, your mentality and perception of young drivers changes. You seem to think that p-platers are completely hopeless and should all drive corollas.

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Big difference between a modded T running 300+ rwkw to a corolla with a driver with only a few years on the road.Stand by my comments What you say is NOT fact but supposition

Not all P platers are better drivers than the rest of the community whether they choose to believe it or not, couple that with big power a fatality is eventually going to be inevitable ..... unfortunately

PS ( sh*t stir taken into account)

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Come on jewels, did u ever say to yourself "p-platers can't drive fast cars" when you were one yourself. Unfortunately, no matter how skilled of a driver you are, fast cars if not driven sensibly are a hazard.

And whether you would like to believe it or not, put a p-plater and a fully licenced driver behind the wheel of a HP Monster and they will most likely both drive like maniacs.

[YPURV4]

you guys are the experts, leave it to you ....not preaching people, but you can take it as you see fit

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Im no expert at all I was just stating a point,I have only just come off my P's I just think P platers do cop a lot of over rated critisism, but yes some p platers do bring it upon them selfs.

That post was just my opinion.

[XR68UZ]

I remember reading that since the new p plater / turbo restrictions have come in, car accidents have actually increased.

sure these T's are cars, but they also have more safety features then say a corolla etc etc. that said, knowing you have a car with more safety features does entice you to push it further :S

still, I know I feel more safer in my T then when im driving my friends corolla, even at normal speeds

[The NUT]

Im 21 and on my second car with my T hopefully making in the area of 250-270 rwkw soon. I agree with most of the sentiments on here that young drivers often are stupid and have an invincibility power trip. Unfortunately we have seen far too many fatalities on the raod up here in NQ due to a mixture of high octane and high testosterone (the memorial near the strand sends shivers up my spine every time I pass it). However, I do believe that it is a vast over assumption and generalisation to assume that ALL young guys with modified cars are a fatality waiting to happen.

Yes of course there is always the lads in their fully sic wrx or VL who gives the rest of us a bad name. But if I may speak for myself and most of mates, we are just performance enthusaists like the rest of you guys.

Why do any of us seek more power when 100km/h is the speed limit?

Sorry if I just thought id add my 2c

Cheers guys

Nut

[Guest]

most crash's are SPEED related which is really errelvant to the power because any car can go fast.

I'd like to see the statistics to back that one up. That almost might be akin to saying that speed is the number one cause of all road fatalities when it isn't.

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In Under 25 related deaths speed is the number one cause, I'm doing an offender's driving course atm and these are the types of things they teach us. Tonight the fire brigade cut up a perfectly good car to show us how they get people out.

[YPURV4]

most crash's are SPEED related which is really errelvant to the power because any car can go fast.

I'd like to see the statistics to back that one up. That almost might be akin to saying that speed is the number one cause of all road fatalities when it isn't.

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Well that's what they preach all over the news, the cop signs etc, I agree with you totally but that's what media tell us.

[Buf-Phoon]

Irrespective of where the money comes from the fact remains that modded ,these are very powerful cars and therefore potential death traps, particularly for younger and more inexperienced drivers.

There are some of the older brigade on here who have been there done that and have still bent panels in these things and HAVE BEEN LUCKY myself included

Don't think you younger guys are infallible .... you are not. Unfortunately one day  ( hopefully not) we will all read some tragic news on this very site , where ambition has exceeded ability.

Just remember that these things will become more and more accessible to younger drivers in coming years. That fact alone makes me very nervous

Add some mods and inexperience you have a very nasty recipe.

Stay safe guys

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The fact that im 21 and driving a modified performance car meant nothing, I'd still have made that same decision regardless.

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Really ? You are 21 .... hindsight is always a wonderful thing, would I have done some things differently .... for sure , and I am nearly twice your age. Doesn't matter that I have been driving modded cars longer than you have been alive.

You are right

I give up this pointless

[Guest]

I remember reading that since the new p plater / turbo restrictions have come in, car accidents have actually increased.

sure these T's are cars, but they also have more safety features then say a corolla etc etc. that said, knowing you have a car with more safety features does entice you to push it further :S

still, I know I feel more safer in my T then when im driving my friends corolla, even at normal speeds

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1oo% correct, one of the HWP driving instructor's (He's a hwp officer to) running the cousre said that in the last 12 months since the new rules came in he's been to more fatel P plate accidents then when they could drive what they liked. He was one of the people who helped implement these news rules and still belives that high performance car's kill.