New Turbo Installed..

[F6 UTE]

The bits of wheel are probably all collected in the intercooler. So that will come off tomorrow and washed out thoroughly, aswell as all intake piping etc..

Reason for bearing failure = ??

I was told, not confirmed though, that Ford got Garrett to place Plastic outer race bearings in there turbos' to reduce costs. Mick, the guy I deal with over here on my fabricating etc has seen 3 fail because of this. Like I say, only what he told me, and unconfirmed..

Oil supply is good, I can't get the screen out of the oil feed line as it's in the block. So can't check for blockage there.

I'll take the turb over to gramps for a squiz, Will check for heat, wear etc.., but generally, the front bearing has failed. Probably could have got away with rebuild, but am happier with new setup..

Note, my Ute has done 60,ooo km in just over 12 months. It was modified with not much less than 300 rwkw from 1,600km. I drive alot, I drive it hard, I enjoy it. Basing the work the turbo has done, I'm not surprised, or annoyed. Po'ed, but you get that with modified cars..

As they say. If you don't break something, you aint trying hard enough..

[F6 UTE]

Well finally after much much rooting around, she's a goer.

Must thank gramps for his insistance to find the cause of the old turbo failing.

He said there was a screen in the oil feed line to the turbo, well I couldn't find it. Bolted everything up, she purred like a kitten. Great. BUT, still hadn't found the cause of the old turbos' death.

So, dropped the oil feed line from the turbo cartridge, guess what, no oil.. Cranked her over for 10 seconds, no oil.

So, pulled off the oil lines, blew them out, again, with air, all clear. Decided to pull everything out of the block ( fittings ) and reconstruct the oil feed passage on the bench. Blew air into it, no air out the other end.. WTF?? all passages were clear??

Now, the advantage of working in daylight is, when you go looking for a screen, you can find it. The bastid is inline, not 90 deg to the passages, as I was looking for. Hiding in the oil feed directly where the banjo gets it's liquid gold.

So, blew that out, got some rag in there, pipie cleaner style, refitted and blew air into it again. All clear.

Refitted the lines, cranked her over for 5 seconds, CONTACT..

Have to thank gramps for insisting I find the cause.. I wasn't comfortable when I couldn't find the screen before, and his nagging voice in the back of my head made me tripple check everything.

Here's a tip, every 30,oookm, taske the oil feed line off, the oil pressure sender and the fitting, clean it all out. The stuff I had on my screen was so tiny it was hardly visable, more like scum actually.. Good insurance, and thanks Ford for not having a dedicated feed line from the head, with filtered oil passing thru the turbo.

[Guest]

Well finally after much much rooting around, she's a goer. 

Must thank gramps for his insistance to find the cause of the old turbo failing.

He said there was a screen in the oil feed line to the turbo, well I couldn't find it. Bolted everything up, she purred like a kitten. Great. BUT, still hadn't found the cause of the old turbos' death.

So, dropped the oil feed line from the turbo cartridge, guess what, no oil.. Cranked her over for 10 seconds, no oil.

So, pulled off the oil lines, blew them out, again, with air, all clear. Decided to pull everything out of the block ( fittings ) and reconstruct the oil feed passage on the bench. Blew air into it, no air out the other end.. WTF?? all passages were clear??

Now, the advantage of working in daylight is, when you go looking for a screen, you can find it. The bastid is inline, not 90 deg to the passages, as I was looking for. Hiding in the oil feed directly where the banjo gets it's liquid gold.

So, blew that out, got some rag in there, pipie cleaner style, refitted and blew air into it again. All clear.

Refitted the lines, cranked her over for 5 seconds, CONTACT..

Have to thank gramps for insisting I find the cause.. I wasn't comfortable when I couldn't find the screen before, and his nagging voice in the back of my head made me tripple check everything.

Here's a tip, every 30,oookm, taske the oil feed line off, the oil pressure sender and the fitting, clean it all out. The stuff I had on my screen was so tiny it was hardly visable, more like scum actually.. Good insurance, and thanks Ford for not having a dedicated feed line from the head, with filtered oil passing thru the turbo. 

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told you to clean the lines out well done ben

and gramps ill send you that bigger turbo with bens cooler!!!!

[F6 UTE]

Well finally after much much rooting around, she's a goer. 

Must thank gramps for his insistance to find the cause of the old turbo failing.

He said there was a screen in the oil feed line to the turbo, well I couldn't find it. Bolted everything up, she purred like a kitten. Great. BUT, still hadn't found the cause of the old turbos' death.

So, dropped the oil feed line from the turbo cartridge, guess what, no oil.. Cranked her over for 10 seconds, no oil.

So, pulled off the oil lines, blew them out, again, with air, all clear. Decided to pull everything out of the block ( fittings ) and reconstruct the oil feed passage on the bench. Blew air into it, no air out the other end.. WTF?? all passages were clear??

Now, the advantage of working in daylight is, when you go looking for a screen, you can find it. The bastid is inline, not 90 deg to the passages, as I was looking for. Hiding in the oil feed directly where the banjo gets it's liquid gold.

So, blew that out, got some rag in there, pipie cleaner style, refitted and blew air into it again. All clear.

Refitted the lines, cranked her over for 5 seconds, CONTACT..

Have to thank gramps for insisting I find the cause.. I wasn't comfortable when I couldn't find the screen before, and his nagging voice in the back of my head made me tripple check everything.

Here's a tip, every 30,oookm, taske the oil feed line off, the oil pressure sender and the fitting, clean it all out. The stuff I had on my screen was so tiny it was hardly visable, more like scum actually.. Good insurance, and thanks Ford for not having a dedicated feed line from the head, with filtered oil passing thru the turbo. 

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told you to clean the lines out well done ben

and gramps ill send you that bigger turbo with bens cooler!!!!

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I read your instructions several times wogg.. I did blow the lines out, just that damn screen was too hard to find at 11pm

Now, where's that coola..

Here's another tip, put the oil drain line on before fitting the turbo.

[F6 UTE]

Oil supply is good, I can't get the screen out of the oil feed line as it's in the block. So can't check for blockage there. 

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I wonder if that would explain Sixfan's dramas as well Very well designed there Mr Ford

[F6_Tornado]

I wonder if that would explain Sixfan's dramas as well   Very well designed there Mr Ford

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No doubt many Turbo’s have failed due to the screen being blocked and possibly Peters (sixfan) was one of many.

They are a very sturdy Turbo and one that is almost impossible to kill, but no matter how good they are they need Oil and lots of it.

As I said to Ben Don’t even think about bolting the new Turbo on until you have found the cause of the first failure. Or you will be up for another $2k when the new one fails. Luckily for Ben he listens and has saved himself some $$$$$$$

None of us want to see anyone out of pocket yet it happens all the time. A tiny part probably worth $0.20 that takes out a Turbo and fills the intercooler with metal.

Unfortunately there is no way of telling if the screen is blocked, short of removing it and checking. As Ben has indicated it should be done @ 30,000 km… Don’t wait for the Ford dealer to do it as they just keep putting on new Turbo’s

[jordak]

I wonder if that would explain Sixfan's dramas as well   Very well designed there Mr Ford

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No doubt many Turbo’s have failed due to the screen being blocked and possibly Peters (sixfan) was one of many.

They are a very sturdy Turbo and one that is almost impossible to kill, but no matter how good they are they need Oil and lots of it.

As I said to Ben Don’t even think about bolting the new Turbo on until you have found the cause of the first failure. Or you will be up for another $2k when the new one fails. Luckily for Ben he listens and has saved himself some $$$$$$$

None of us want to see anyone out of pocket yet it happens all the time. A tiny part probably worth $0.20 that takes out a Turbo and fills the intercooler with metal.

Unfortunately there is no way of telling if the screen is blocked, short of removing it and checking. As Ben has indicated it should be done @ 30,000 km… Don’t wait for the Ford dealer to do it as they just keep putting on new Turbo’s

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Whats involved in checking this ourselves, is it a big job / not for the faint hearted or one well worth undertaking?

[F6 RAPID]

And Ben, no doubt you will be providing us all some pictures of where this little sucker is......................

[Adrian6T]

And Ben, no doubt you will be providing us all some pictures of where this little sucker is......................

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