cap260 Member 13 Member For: 18y 5m 20d Posted 14/09/06 03:52 AM Share Posted 14/09/06 03:52 AM Hi Im new to this, I have a BF turbo and took it on a track a few months ago. It was alot of fun. After about five laps the trans went into safe mode ( D light on dash just keeps flashing ) Had to drive around slowly for a few laps to let the car cool down, I would then get a couple more laps and the same thing would happen.Does anyone know how to fix this problem?Remember the BA does not have the same cooling setup as the BF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 21y 20d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 14/09/06 04:07 AM Share Posted 14/09/06 04:07 AM A secondary cooler would be your best bet.I beleive that the F6's have 2 coolers to keep the box cool. I have not had the same problem on the track as you.It could also be the way yo are driving it. Are you using the gearbox to slow the car down ? This generates a lot of heat. FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6_Tornado F6+300+ Member 940 Member For: 20y 3m 26d Location: In The Ute Posted 14/09/06 04:35 AM Share Posted 14/09/06 04:35 AM Hi Im new to this, I have a BF turbo and took it on a track a few months ago. It was alot of fun. After about five laps the trans went into safe mode ( D light on dash just keeps flashing ) Had to drive around slowly for a few laps to let the car cool down, I would then get a couple more laps and the same thing would happen.Does anyone know how to fix this problem?Remember the BA does not have the same cooling setup as the BF.←You sure it’s overheating?Hard to get a ZF hot as it spends 99% of its time in Lockup, so minimal converter action except for a split second during gear change.Usually stall is the only time you would have heat buildup, unless of course the clutch packs are slipping.However I have noticed whilst doing some testing towards getting a good 60ft that the transmission is quite smart and makes a lot of decisions on its own and often locks out modes and gears. This quite often catches you off guard if your not aware of why.The flashing D could mean a few thinks but I have noticed that if I miss a gear in the Auto when in manual mode and bounce off the limiter it spits it at times and goes the “Flashing D” Turn the key off count to 10 and start it and its fine.If you where doing track work did u hit the limiter at all during that time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotom Team Bute Donating Members 1,550 Member For: 21y 7m 19d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 14/09/06 05:14 AM Share Posted 14/09/06 05:14 AM Hi Im new to this, I have a BF turbo and took it on a track a few months ago. It was alot of fun. After about five laps the trans went into safe mode ( D light on dash just keeps flashing ) Had to drive around slowly for a few laps to let the car cool down, I would then get a couple more laps and the same thing would happen.Does anyone know how to fix this problem?Remember the BA does not have the same cooling setup as the BF.←You sure it’s overheating?Hard to get a ZF hot as it spends 99% of its time in Lockup, so minimal converter action except for a split second during gear change.Usually stall is the only time you would have heat buildup, unless of course the clutch packs are slipping.However I have noticed whilst doing some testing towards getting a good 60ft that the transmission is quite smart and makes a lot of decisions on its own and often locks out modes and gears. This quite often catches you off guard if your not aware of why.The flashing D could mean a few thinks but I have noticed that if I miss a gear in the Auto when in manual mode and bounce off the limiter it spits it at times and goes the “Flashing D” Turn the key off count to 10 and start it and its fine.If you where doing track work did u hit the limiter at all during that time?←I beg to differ...Drive an auto hard, and it definitely warms up very quickly too.Many guys have found their auto trans overheating during track work. And it doesn't take too many laps either.Diffs too. Oil boiling and pissing out of breather. Not real flash for a so called performance car!Solution is a good sized auxilliary trans cooler, easily fitted in front of the radiator.As to diff oil boil over..... Don't know if its possible to weld some cooling fins onto diff housing to help dissipate heat? If really serious about track work, I guess you could fit a pump and oil cooler for it too... Otherwise drive smoother, keep the radius of the turns as wide as possible (start wide , come in to apex, finish out wide) .... reduce the increased slip inherent with taking sharper turns. I wonder if power sliding (a' la drifting) would mean less differential speed between each rear wheel, therefore reduced heat buildup As you get pulled over for another sideways excursion on the street......."Honestly Ossiffer... I was only trying to reduce the heat build up in my diff." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap260 Member 13 Member For: 18y 5m 20d Posted 14/09/06 05:39 AM Author Share Posted 14/09/06 05:39 AM Hi Im new to this, I have a BF turbo and took it on a track a few months ago. It was alot of fun. After about five laps the trans went into safe mode ( D light on dash just keeps flashing ) Had to drive around slowly for a few laps to let the car cool down, I would then get a couple more laps and the same thing would happen.Does anyone know how to fix this problem?Remember the BA does not have the same cooling setup as the BF.←You sure it’s overheating?Hard to get a ZF hot as it spends 99% of its time in Lockup, so minimal converter action except for a split second during gear change.Usually stall is the only time you would have heat buildup, unless of course the clutch packs are slipping.However I have noticed whilst doing some testing towards getting a good 60ft that the transmission is quite smart and makes a lot of decisions on its own and often locks out modes and gears. This quite often catches you off guard if your not aware of why.The flashing D could mean a few thinks but I have noticed that if I miss a gear in the Auto when in manual mode and bounce off the limiter it spits it at times and goes the “Flashing D” Turn the key off count to 10 and start it and its fine.If you where doing track work did u hit the limiter at all during that time?←I beg to differ...Drive an auto hard, and it definitely warms up very quickly too.Many guys have found their auto trans overheating during track work. And it doesn't take too many laps either.Diffs too. Oil boiling and pissing out of breather. Not real flash for a so called performance car!Solution is a good sized auxilliary trans cooler, easily fitted in front of the radiator.As to diff oil boil over..... Don't know if its possible to weld some cooling fins onto diff housing to help dissipate heat? If really serious about track work, I guess you could fit a pump and oil cooler for it too... Otherwise drive smoother, keep the radius of the turns as wide as possible (start wide , come in to apex, finish out wide) .... reduce the increased slip inherent with taking sharper turns. I wonder if power sliding (a' la drifting) would mean less differential speed between each rear wheel, therefore reduced heat buildup As you get pulled over for another sideways excursion on the street......."Honestly Ossiffer... I was only trying to reduce the heat build up in my diff." ← Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cap260 Member 13 Member For: 18y 5m 20d Posted 14/09/06 05:43 AM Author Share Posted 14/09/06 05:43 AM The trans is overheating because after twomore laps it comes good for two more laps, then it happens again.I have spoken to several people who do coolers and they dontknow much about the new trans.I want to know if anyone has had similar problems and can you get it fixed without causing a problem with ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F6_Tornado F6+300+ Member 940 Member For: 20y 3m 26d Location: In The Ute Posted 14/09/06 06:06 AM Share Posted 14/09/06 06:06 AM It may well be overheating due to many reasons but the six speed is a lot different to the old 4 speeds by way of lockup minimizing converter action.They also have a thermostat to ensure the Trans warms to operating temperature ASAP to reduce friction and improve fuel consumption (selling point) this may be playing up and simply causing it to run hot by not functioning correctly.I personally don’t think it warrants a second cooler. I’d be checking a few simple things first. ie. The cooling sytsem.What does Ford do if you need a tow pack on a six speed ZF?Simply tell Ford it gets hot when towing and I'm sure they will check-out the basics.....mmm Ford??|??? Maybe not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms700 Moderating Team 10,170 Member For: 22y 1m 3d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 14/09/06 06:47 AM Share Posted 14/09/06 06:47 AM If it has a cooler fitted from the factory it obviously isnt doing its job!Dont go fitting another cooler.When our cars overheat, we dont fit another aux radiator, we fit a bigger, better radiator.Dont band aid the problem, fix it properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slymeat Team Kickass Donating Members 1,926 Member For: 21y 1m 6d Gender: Male Location: Albion Park, NSW Posted 14/09/06 07:25 AM Share Posted 14/09/06 07:25 AM If it has a cooler fitted from the factory it obviously isnt doing its job!Dont go fitting another cooler.When our cars overheat, we dont fit another aux radiator, we fit a bigger, better radiator.Dont band aid the problem, fix it properly.←I tend to think the same and it would save room to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktford FORD FORD FORD Donating Members 9,390 Member For: 21y 11m 17d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Point In Brissy's eastern side Posted 14/09/06 08:28 AM Share Posted 14/09/06 08:28 AM My C6 used to boil its oil in the space of 400m with one cooler, fitting a 2nd cooler in line with the 1st one reduced track use temperature to regular road driving temps, it was fitted with reverse shift pattern and 4500 Allfast convertor I may add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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