tmac450 Member 1,650 Member For: 18y 3m 8d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 07/09/06 07:22 AM Share Posted 07/09/06 07:22 AM In one way it'd be good to see Ford pick up their game, expecially on the V8s, but Ford and Expensive Daewoo changing their models more often than Paris Hilton scores really stuffs the values of the outgoing models. Not many other brands out there where a $55K car will be lucky to get $20K in 3-4 years.I haven't had by BF for 2 weeks, and while I admit getting a good deal because of the upcomming BF2 (as well as fuel prices and the new Dunnydore), I went for it because I was assured by Ford that the BF2 XRs weren't going to change other than some new colours.When you think about it, the XR6 T has no Expensive Daewoo competitor so Ford is more likely to look elsewhere for improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoy Member 163 Member For: 18y 9m 28d Gender: Male Location: Brissy Posted 07/09/06 07:26 AM Share Posted 07/09/06 07:26 AM Lets hope its true but I doubt it.. However, hopefully FPV do something to tweak the F6's, the XRT got an extra 5 kw and 30nm in Ba-Bf, and the F6's stayed the same so I think its the F6s turn for an extra 5kw and 30nm... The V8s are quite a fair margin behind the E series now too, and coz ford quote their figures in DIN, it looks even worse on paper for them as they now need to do ECE, maybe they will just keep the 290, but quote in ECE now instead of DIN. Something ford would do anyway, that way they wouldnt have to change the stickers on the bulges, and on the air intakes inside the engine bay.. ←I don't think you can quote in ECE, Expensive Daewoo now use DIN also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEMESHMAN260 Member 155 Member For: 20y 10m 29d Posted 07/09/06 07:39 AM Share Posted 07/09/06 07:39 AM xr6t= 260kwxr8=280 kwf6=295kwGt-GTP 320kwDont know how good this source is, said they were debriefed this week on it at ford.Orion rumoured 5.4 super charged. 600NM 350KW likely to be called F8, Engine was going to go in BF but arse end not strong enough for power of engine. WIth all the new reenforments the orion will handle it.← Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangm001 Member 307 Member For: 19y 6d Posted 07/09/06 08:48 AM Share Posted 07/09/06 08:48 AM (edited) Lets hope its true but I doubt it.. However, hopefully FPV do something to tweak the F6's, the XRT got an extra 5 kw and 30nm in Ba-Bf, and the F6's stayed the same so I think its the F6s turn for an extra 5kw and 30nm... The V8s are quite a fair margin behind the E series now too, and coz ford quote their figures in DIN, it looks even worse on paper for them as they now need to do ECE, maybe they will just keep the 290, but quote in ECE now instead of DIN. Something ford would do anyway, that way they wouldnt have to change the stickers on the bulges, and on the air intakes inside the engine bay.. ←I don't think you can quote in ECE, Expensive Daewoo now use DIN also.←Hey Mate, Funny you should say that. Because I am looking at a brand new Ve Late model camira brochure (Hard copy) and it says the SS has 270kw* and the * means that the maximum figures are quoted as per ECE regulations. I have however just visited the hsv web site, and their 307kw is done using the DIN figure.. http://www.hsv.com.au/index_eseries.asp then click on the GTS pic, then specs then the performance.. IS holden's performance brand trying to "get more power" just by quoting in DIN?? Busted! Let us know what ya all think.. Edited 07/09/06 08:49 AM by bangm001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tur Flight 6 Member 471 Member For: 21y 4m 8d Posted 07/09/06 08:53 AM Author Share Posted 07/09/06 08:53 AM More Info, xr6 turbo engine to have same internals as f6 but no oil cooler. This is due to ineffiencies on the line at FORD, so engine will have the stronger rods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 21y 7m 16d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 07/09/06 08:55 AM Share Posted 07/09/06 08:55 AM I've heard Ford will be using a smaller turbo and a few other tricks to combat the aftermarket industry making so much power with the stock components like they do now.That, like everything else in this thread is probably just BS anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangm001 Member 307 Member For: 19y 6d Posted 07/09/06 08:57 AM Share Posted 07/09/06 08:57 AM I've heard Ford will be using a smaller turbo and a few other tricks to combat the aftermarket industry making so much power with the stock components like they do now.That, like everything else in this thread is probably just BS anyway. ←That would make our older T's with the GT35/40 700plus horsie snail worth so much more.. Do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinpiston Member 133 Member For: 18y 6m 11d Gender: Male Location: Brisvegas Posted 07/09/06 09:08 AM Share Posted 07/09/06 09:08 AM I hope they don't put the XR6T engines up, I am waiting on a Terry Turbo and they are suppose to be the same, unless they put them up as well, which they won't cause they have only been out 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orrie Member 68 Member For: 19y 4m 23d Gender: Male Posted 07/09/06 10:08 AM Share Posted 07/09/06 10:08 AM Just placed an Order for a BF MK2 with the luxury pack. Still do not know final prices but was told that there was no real changes to the XR series as they were selling well anyway. Would be nice to get the extra Kw's but I am sure it is just BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveO Member 250 Member For: 21y 2m 7d Location: City Posted 09/09/06 10:31 AM Share Posted 09/09/06 10:31 AM Talking to an FPV dealer today, he said that they are not taking orders on the V8s anymore but they are still taking it on the 6's. This could mean that a new V8 (higher performance) is in the works for the BF MKII's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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