johng Member 43 Member For: 18y 5m 10d Posted 20/08/06 08:25 AM Share Posted 20/08/06 08:25 AM Hey Guys, I'm sure the following questions would have been asked at one time or another, but after reading 5 pages of brake threads, I couldn't see it.I've got a BA MkII, and frankly the brakes are sh*t. Maybe because I've driven lighter cars most of my life, but by god I jumped on them the other day, ABS coming in and out, but the car didn't seem to stop real quick at all. So an upgrade for me.Now it appears that the PBR upgrade kit is the gun upgrade, but when I check out the specs, it doesn't list the MKII as compatible - it lists "to 9/04" which is the Mk1.Has anyone here fitted it to the MKII ?Secondly, seeing it costs so bloody much, im considering going with a simple pad upgrade + DBA 4000 series rotors. Once again, not sure if the 4504 is compatible with the MKII as it just says 2002 - onwards in the spec. ANyway, DBA will be able to answer that I'm sure, but has anyone done this upgrade, and can they comment on how well it worked? Did it make a big difference? Has anyone done this upgrade and moved onto the whole PBR kit that can comment on the difference between them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cro Flower Power Lifetime Members 6,114 Member For: 22y 3m 12d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 20/08/06 10:22 AM Share Posted 20/08/06 10:22 AM I don't know if the PBR's will fit behind the MK2 wheels, someone should be along shortly to confirm this..Pads and Rotors will not help much at all. I've done the DBA4000 + Ferodo Pad route and whilst at the time I thought they stopped better I was fooling myself.The PBR package is the way to go, much better stopping and better at resisting fade. I can go a 35 min track session without punishing them too much, having said that I have a manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 20y 11m 9d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 20/08/06 12:05 PM Share Posted 20/08/06 12:05 PM If your stock brakes did not pull you up fast enough because the ABS kicked in, then bigger brakes will not make any difference.Getting better tyres will make a difference, brakes will not.If you were cooking your stock brakes at the track or doing some spirited driving, then bigger brakes work better as they can stop more before they cook, but they will NOT stop the car quicker.This is because once ABS kicks in, you are at the limit of the tyres grip, not the brakes. Oh and stock brakes do suck, 6 spot Brembos rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford number 1 Donating Members 602 Member For: 20y 4m 25d Gender: Male Location: N/W Sydney Posted 20/08/06 12:09 PM Share Posted 20/08/06 12:09 PM ive also got the crappy stock brakes and was wondering if replacing the stockies with dba's and a diff pad does it stop the brake shudder..Slowing down from 180kmh at WSID almost knocked some of my teeth out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seventytwo Still have a turbo, it's just on a diesel. Lifetime Members 5,368 Member For: 19y 6m 15d Gender: Male Location: The 8th Dimension Posted 20/08/06 12:10 PM Share Posted 20/08/06 12:10 PM If you are looking for a cheap upgrade for a BA, you can always source the calipers off a wreaked BF or territory and then buy a set of disc and pads to suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford number 1 Donating Members 602 Member For: 20y 4m 25d Gender: Male Location: N/W Sydney Posted 20/08/06 12:16 PM Share Posted 20/08/06 12:16 PM Thx mate,ill keep that in mind.Are the territory brakes the same as wats on the BF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninka Donating Members 1,850 Member For: 22y 30d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 20/08/06 01:53 PM Share Posted 20/08/06 01:53 PM I can't see why the PBR kit would not fit a Mk II BA I have had this kit on my Mk I for 18 months, and I have never looked back - no brake shudder, great stopping and good looks.Only downside - they are dusty, but then again, I guess you cant have your cake and eat it too!! Go the PBR upgrade, you will not regret it.BCR01 on this forum can help you with a deal on these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBO4LT Member 1,533 Member For: 21y 5m 5d Gender: Male Location: NSW Posted 20/08/06 10:28 PM Share Posted 20/08/06 10:28 PM Don't bother with this upgrade as cro said it dosn't really help much, you get a little better bite but the fade comes in nearly as early as on the standard brakes. I've had them on my car for 30k and I'm looking to get PBR premiums.Mate of mine has a Mk11 and he put the PBR brake kit on his without any problems., im considering going with a simple pad upgrade + DBA 4000 series rotors. ← Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Member 43 Member For: 18y 5m 10d Posted 21/08/06 07:02 AM Author Share Posted 21/08/06 07:02 AM Firstly, thanks for all the responses. Looks like my cheap upgrade is pointless, and I may as well put the $400 towards a $2000 upgrade .. If your stock brakes did not pull you up fast enough because the ABS kicked in, then bigger brakes will not make any difference.Getting better tyres will make a difference, brakes will not.←While my head agree's with you, my experience doesn't. I had various brake upgrades on cars in the past, even cars that I could lock up with the standard brakes, I found could stop a hell of a lot quicker with real brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP No boost, no bottle, just my foot on the throttle! Lifetime Members 7,935 Member For: 20y 11m 9d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 21/08/06 10:13 AM Share Posted 21/08/06 10:13 AM johnq,It is all in the mind....Tyres will make the biggest difference. If you stood on you your whoa pedal and could not get the car to lockup or get ABS to kick in, then bigger brakes will make a difference.I had a datsun 1600 with stock brakes and put slicks on it on the track. I could not lock them up by stomping on them. They would also cook after about 2 laps, this was purely due to the added grip of the tyres.Having crappy tyres instead of the slicks would have been the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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