Sly's General Questions

[Slymeat]

The RTA cameras only allow for an error of I think of 2 to 3 km/hr, your best bet if you have a good driving record is to write a letter and attach it to a cheque for the amount, in this letter you state that you have not been booked for how ever long but they like to see several years and that it was only a small amount, also state that you understand it is an offence and you know you were in the wrong. It's a case of swallowing your pride I know, they will usually send the cheque back if they decide to send you a caution. Although beware doing this prevents you taking it to court at a later date. I do not know if there are minimum legal amounts for the speed measuring devices but they generally have an error depending on the type of radar of +-2km/hr. I believe it is inherently unfair to issue such low speeding infringments, as it is not in the sprit of the legislation. That said the commisioner of the RTA has the final say, not me.

P.S. Radar is not my strong suit so I cannot be exactly sure, as I do not use it.

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Thanks Sly.

Looks like I need to spend a little while in front of MS Word...

Cheers.

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UPDATE!!!!

Got a reply in the mail today from the Vic Police.....

The infringement has been retracted and a warning applied, due to the circumstances.

WOO HOO!!!

Thanks to Sly and everyone else for the advice. Saved me $134 and the demerit point. I will have a beer for you all.

Cheers

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Hey the beer ( I mean OP Bundy ) should be coming my way though.

[Iconic Bionic]

I guess that the inaccurate readings that can be gererated by the user would depend on several factors. As only about 1% of tickets are fought in court, they would not see a need to operate these units correctly. I would fight ANY LIDAR ticket.

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I think you have a greater chance in contesting radar and not lidar. Rader uses a signal that has an attraction to large metallic objects, such as cars. If you can succesfully argue that the rader targeted or even possibly targeted, is good enough at court, another larger metallic object in the area, then you have a defence.

The most common one is that the rader was used in taffic and instead of targeting your vehicle in fact targeted another. Now whats bigger than a car, well most trucks are and cars and trucks in the same vicinity cause havoc for all radars. The radar always targets the largets metallic object. Wind and rain also effect its capabilities.

[Mr X]

+3km/h   That disgraceful.  Anyone know what the threshold is in South Aus?

It's 10% here in Qld which works for me

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apparently they have speed cameras at red lights in SA

shazzy

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YES WE DO :censored:just recently got caught @ 72 kph on 60 zone. Threshold in SA would be 8-9 kph over the limit ?

[Iconic Bionic]

South Australia is the first state to introduce dual red light and speed cameras. If you speed up to run the red, then you get done by the fixed speed camera. NSW will introduce these in late 2007, for full introduction in 2008. The money is just too good for the RTA too pass up.

Also NSW has point to point speed camers. Im not aware of any other states or territories having these.

[XR64T]

The RTA cameras only allow for an error of I think of 2 to 3 km/hr, your best bet if you have a good driving record is to write a letter and attach it to a cheque for the amount, in this letter you state that you have not been booked for how ever long but they like to see several years and that it was only a small amount, also state that you understand it is an offence and you know you were in the wrong. It's a case of swallowing your pride I know, they will usually send the cheque back if they decide to send you a caution. Although beware doing this prevents you taking it to court at a later date. I do not know if there are minimum legal amounts for the speed measuring devices but they generally have an error depending on the type of radar of +-2km/hr. I believe it is inherently unfair to issue such low speeding infringments, as it is not in the sprit of the legislation. That said the commisioner of the RTA has the final say, not me.

P.S. Radar is not my strong suit so I cannot be exactly sure, as I do not use it.

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Thanks Sly.

Looks like I need to spend a little while in front of MS Word...

Cheers.

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UPDATE!!!!

Got a reply in the mail today from the Vic Police.....

The infringement has been retracted and a warning applied, due to the circumstances.

WOO HOO!!!

Thanks to Sly and everyone else for the advice. Saved me $134 and the demerit point. I will have a beer for you all.

Cheers

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Hey the beer ( I mean OP Bundy ) should be coming my way though.

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Here ya go mate....

[harvyk]

South Australia is the first state to introduce dual red light and speed cameras. If you speed up to run the red, then you get done by the fixed speed camera. NSW will introduce these in late 2007, for full introduction in 2008. The money is just too good for the RTA too pass up.

Also NSW has point to point speed camers. Im not aware of any other states or territories having these.

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Whaqt you talking about, the ACT has had them for many years, infact every fixed speed camera (that I know of) is aimed at traffic lights...

[harvyk]

I've got a question, one of the roads near my house is an 80km/h zone, however someone managed to wrap their car around the light post which had the 80 sign attached. This sign is normally the one which tells traffic that it's now an 80 zone and not a 60.

I drive along this road every day and do 80, as does everyone else. I fairly sure every cop in the area also knows it's normally an 80 zone as there is a school zone near by and it's not uncommon to see cops there.

my question is during the time that the sign has been knocked down does the road become a 60 zone (given that there is a 60 sign 200 meters prior to the 80 zone starting) or does it stay an 80 zone even those there is no sign there?

More to the point if I was booked for doing 80 in the area even though the sign is no longer there would it be something I would be able to say there was normally a 80 sign there it was damaged due to a car accident?

[Iconic Bionic]

I've got a question, one of the roads near my house is an 80km/h zone, however someone managed to wrap their car around the light post which had the 80 sign attached. This sign is normally the one which tells traffic that it's now an 80 zone and not a 60.

I drive along this road every day and do 80, as does everyone else. I fairly sure every cop in the area also knows it's normally an 80 zone as there is a school zone near by and it's not uncommon to see cops there.

my question is during the time that the sign has been knocked down does the road become a 60 zone (given that there is a 60 sign 200 meters prior to the 80 zone starting) or does it stay an 80 zone even those there is no sign there?

More to the point if I was booked for doing 80 in the area even though the sign is no longer there would it be something I would be able to say there was normally a 80 sign there it was damaged due to a car accident?

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Signage of the speed limit does not actualy dictate the speed limit on any partiuclar roadway. I now this sounds ridiculous, but the speed limit on any given road is defined by a class/catagory that although is held on a some computer in some office, it actually decides the speed limit. Signs only advise drivers of the speed limit as you are unlikely to have access to the computer records.

My answer to your question is that if you do 80k and the most recent sign covering the roadway before this section says 60 than no you cannot be done for exceeding the speed limit. This however can apply to desiganted work site zones where a reduction in the speed limit is accepted by law.

In the vent your ticketed for such a speed under such circumstances than you would be 1) very unlucky and 2) you would be able to contest it very easily and win costs.

[RHR]

I've got a question, one of the roads near my house is an 80km/h zone, however someone managed to wrap their car around the light post which had the 80 sign attached. This sign is normally the one which tells traffic that it's now an 80 zone and not a 60.

I drive along this road every day and do 80, as does everyone else. I fairly sure every cop in the area also knows it's normally an 80 zone as there is a school zone near by and it's not uncommon to see cops there.

my question is during the time that the sign has been knocked down does the road become a 60 zone (given that there is a 60 sign 200 meters prior to the 80 zone starting) or does it stay an 80 zone even those there is no sign there?

More to the point if I was booked for doing 80 in the area even though the sign is no longer there would it be something I would be able to say there was normally a 80 sign there it was damaged due to a car accident?

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Signage of the speed limit does not actualy dictate the speed limit on any partiuclar roadway. I now this sounds ridiculous, but the speed limit on any given road is defined by a class/catagory that although is held on a some computer in some office, it actually decides the speed limit. Signs only advise drivers of the speed limit as you are unlikely to have access to the computer records.

My answer to your question is that if you do 80k and the most recent sign covering the roadway before this section says 60 than no you cannot be done for exceeding the speed limit. This however can apply to desiganted work site zones where a reduction in the speed limit is accepted by law.

In the vent your ticketed for such a speed under such circumstances than you would be 1) very unlucky and 2) you would be able to contest it very easily and win costs.

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Great answer there sly

[Lumpen]

If the small obnoxious child (13y/o) of the next door neighbour, decides to warm up and rev his 2 stroke motorbike to 72,000 revs before going on the road and popping mono's without a helmet, all at 6 in the morning. Am I legally allowed to cave his head in with a mallet while he sleeps?

Lumpy