Modification Options

[Adam]

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It is a concern with the warranty issue and the chip. I've heard so many varying bit of information about wether to go for it or not?

Prices varying from $1500 to $5000...? Stage 1, 2 and 3.

By the way is the stock 240 kw in the spec's messured from the wheel or the engine?

I'm expecting delivery of my XR6T next week after waiting some 4 months!!!! YEAH BABY!

Sven

I think Peter from APS summed it up best at the Melb APS day "if your worried about the warranty don't do it". The 240kW is measured from the engine.

[Macktheknife]

OK.

I NEED HELP. JUST ABOUT A DAY OR TWO FROM MAKING A DECISION.

Budget is $1600.

Chiptorque (claimed 60kw increase) or

APS (claimed 40kw increase).

Mackthe....

[GOLDIE]

Hi mack all I can say is that the chip torque unit is great I have not seen the aps unit so I am not sure about it.

If you are at the dyno day on saterday we can have a talk than and I think locii from chip talk will be there too.

Ian

[Macktheknife]

Ian, OK.

Thanks.

I'm not booked in but I'll be there somhow.

[Guest 56Mainline]

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Chiptorque (claimed 60kw increase) or

APS (claimed 40kw increase).

60rwkW ?

I know from their web site that the posted dyno charts are not in shootout mode 6 & therefore not directly comparable to APS'd dyno charts.

Speaking to Chiptorque direct re their 300kW upgrade (Xede processor & tuning only) to a stock standard XR6T, you should end-up with approx 40rwkW (extra 50-60fwkW).

This is exactly the same as that claimed by the APS stage 1 kit (Unichip processor & tuning).

In the end, the decision will come down to $$$, local dealers (for install & after sales service & further tuning after further modifications B) ), and how comfortable you feel with the product & company.....

Good luck.

PS. I've placed my upgrade order, paid a deposit, now await delivery of the gear so I can book an install date....

[Macktheknife]

56Mainline.

Yep, I was talking the figures claimed for fwKW.

Have seen a APS system on the Dyno getting a corrected increase of 42 fwKW. As both systems have no changes made to fuel or exhaust hardware, my main concern with the chiptorque is how close to the limit the existing fuel system will be running.

ie: The possibility of getting a bit too lean.

Maybe will get some answers on saturday.

[cuspub]

Having read through this thread it appears to me that whereas a number of 'suppliers' have been mentioned, one is missing.

Nizpro has developed three kit stages, and whereas the price is relatively high, the results are simply staggering.

Nizpro debuted their Acid Rush development sedan at Calder on Friday night, and although having the engine management side nailed, it turned out that the automatic transmission management is an issue that is yet to be rectified.

In other words, they ran into problems with the inherent management instruction that pulls power from the engine just prior to a gear change so as to not hurt the transmission. As a consequence of vastly higher engine power than standard, the trans problems had much more of an impact than you might expect, resulting in vastly slower quarter mile times than anticipated.

Unfortunately for Nizpro, the car 'only' recorded an 11.73 @ 125.9 mph (201.44 kmh), thanks to the trans dramas.

The car is equipped with a Stage Three development combination consisting of their Stage two Kit (plenum, FMIC, rocker cover, cold air intake, injectors and other fabricated bits), along with MoTeC (for development purposes as typically they run the Xede), the engine has custom rods (but is otherwise 100% stock internally) is backed with a shift kitted auto and an otherwise stock driveline. Tyres are 245 Nittos.

The only changes to the fuel system consist of a larger in-tank pump, likewise the car runs the FACTORY exhaust system less cat.

On Nizpro's DynoLogic chassis dynamometer, the Falcon delivered 410 kilowatts to the treads at 20 pounds boost, which effectively equates to approximately 650 flywheel horsepower.

Nizpro has only just started playing with the new combination (hence the trans problems) however once these are sorted (two weeks), expect low 11 or high 10-second time slips.

Also interesting is how Nizpro has another development mule, this one a Ute which will be equipped with a Stage Four package expected to push the vehicle over the quarter in low 10s or quicker.

Check Fullboost for details on the 11.7 run.

By the way, ROB HERROD is selling the Nizpro kits.

As I am not sure how to get images up on here (I know, I'm dumb), if anyone wants a shot of the car or the engine bay, contact me via email please.

[geea]

  cuspub said:

likewise the car runs the FACTORY exhaust system less cat.

What sort of cat is used or does the car run without one?

[cuspub]

Due to there being very little time getting the vehicle ready for the drags, they hadn't time to replace the cat, so for the drags left it as a straight through pipe. They believe that the restriction in the exhaust is so damn limited (apart from the cat) there is no need to change it.

Also, one thing I didn't mention before was that the car in question is running the Factory turbo (unmodified).

[bcl]

Cuspub,

Thanks for the update.

There have been a number of threads on this kit already, with a number of pictures...

http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.ph...topic=5787&st=0

it details this kit, as marketed by GCG Turbochargers in Sydney

Also

http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.ph...=6007&hl=nizpro

I'm waiting on Stage 3 details, as there are also proposed compressor changes, as well as exhaust changes over the last 2 weeks. ... so it appears to be still in development, although Stage 1 & 2 seem to be finalised. I suspect you'll find that the quoted 650hp is not with the stock turbo.... results are very good and not surprising.

Brian