Road/race Tyres

[beauies]

My ute is starting to have major traction problems.

Its now time to invest in a set of road/race tyres.

My ute is now only driven occassionally on weekends so I'm not worried about quick wearing tyres just need a solution to the traction problem.

Has any forum members got a recommendation on what tyres are available and work or tyres to avoid purchasing in the road/race tyre class? (prices if possible to)

cheers

[turbotom]

You talking race track or drag strip?

For the drag strip, these are a street legal radial with soft compound rubber....

M/T ET Street Radials : P275 40R17

Recomended to use 9~11" rim widths, but they will fit on stock 17x8 rims and work good.

Now although these tyres have some grooves, they are not very good in the wet.

They are designed for drag racing, so have a very large fooprint of contact rubber which will contribute to aquaplaning inthe wet.

As for good race track rubber for the road?

Not sure. Haven't looked in that area. Whatever you choose though, if it's a good sticky grooved race tyre certified for road use, it won't be cheap.

To be honest, I have found the stock Dunlop Sp3000 17's quite a good tyre for grip on my ute..... up until I upgraded with my latest race HP-F tune

tom

[beauies]

After a grooved slick that is street legal for use on the road. (something like falken azenis)

Been using the dunnies up until now but the rwkws are exceeding there ability

[BALLBREAKER]

Hi guys had the same problems with the F6,iam running 330 rwkw. Fitted a set of st115 azenis on the rear 265 35 18 great rubber traction is there now.sure it will smoke in first but throw into second & it just chirps hard throw it into 3rd & nothing no wheel spin. put it this way with the sp9000 smoke first second & 3rd no probs & it never pinged,now with st115 & full tank of juice it somtimes pings,wtf I need a retune because I changed rubber.They are very quiet,also I have been told they wear out quick,that the price you pay for traction I guess.CHEERS BB

[F6 UTE]

  BALLBREAKER said:

Hi guys had the same problems with the F6,iam running 330 rwkw. Fitted a set of st115 azenis on the rear 265 35 18 great rubber traction is there now.sure it will smoke in first but throw into second & it just chirps hard throw it into 3rd & nothing no wheel spin. put it this way with the sp9000 smoke first second & 3rd no probs & it never pinged,now with st115 & full tank of juice it somtimes pings,wtf I need a retune because I changed rubber.They are very quiet,also I have been told they wear out quick,that the price you pay for traction I guess.CHEERS BB

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Good to see you got some decent rubber BB, can you see now how it's possible to get exceptional times to 100kph in the manual with power??

Never underestimate good rubber.

As for 'good' track/race/road rubber, there will always be comprimises, nice 'R' Spec rubber is cheap, but compared to wear, it's exceptionally expensive.

Also the R spec stuff needs to be brought up to good temps to be at it's best, and is not ideal for dragging as it takes too long to heat up.

MT's on the street imo on a cold day are hopeless, also night time it's plain dangerous. I turn mine ( the MT's ) more on the way to the drags than my street tyres do on the same roads...

[coach3062]

  BALLBREAKER said:

Hi guys had the same problems with the F6,iam running 330 rwkw. Fitted a set of st115 azenis on the rear 265 35 18 great rubber traction is there now.sure it will smoke in first but throw into second & it just chirps hard throw it into 3rd & nothing no wheel spin. put it this way with the sp9000 smoke first second & 3rd no probs & it never pinged,now with st115 & full tank of juice it somtimes pings,wtf I need a retune because I changed rubber.They are very quiet,also I have been told they wear out quick,that the price you pay for traction I guess.CHEERS BB

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Just remember that if all that power is getting to the ground then that shock loads everything else in the drivetrain ie; clutch,gearbox, uni's, diff, driveshafts. All those newton-metres have to go somewhere! Expect driveline component life to be shortened greatly. Ford have built-in a sacrificial anode with a lousy clutch! An auto should be much kinder to most components, of course the transmission itself maybe the weak link.

[BALLBREAKER]

  coach3062 said:

  BALLBREAKER said:

Hi guys had the same problems with the F6,iam running 330 rwkw. Fitted a set of st115 azenis on the rear 265 35 18 great rubber traction is there now.sure it will smoke in first but throw into second & it just chirps hard throw it into 3rd & nothing no wheel spin. put it this way with the sp9000 smoke first second & 3rd no probs & it never pinged,now with st115 & full tank of juice it somtimes pings,wtf I need a retune because I changed rubber.They are very quiet,also I have been told they wear out quick,that the price you pay for traction I guess.CHEERS BB

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Just remember that if all that power is getting to the ground then that shock loads everything else in the drivetrain ie; clutch,gearbox, uni's, diff, driveshafts. All those newton-metres have to go somewhere! Expect driveline component life to be shortened greatly. Ford have built-in a sacrificial anode with a lousy clutch! An auto should be much kinder to most components, of course the transmission itself maybe the weak link.

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Yes mate that's true this cars been running 330 rwkw for almost a year,I think its a great clutch,if it was auto it wouldnt have had the traction problems it had.I think imo that with good traction you dont get axel tramp &it dosnt hit the rev limeter because of wheels going up in smoke,and I not saying my clutch will last for ever I wish it did

[F6 UTE]

  coach3062 said:

Ford have built-in a sacrificial anode with a lousy clutch!

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Not in the F6's

Mine hangs onto 4500rpm dump on MT's and cut 1.80 60'...

I feel sorry for the box though :( Diff makes some noise aswell..

[Kimberley Scott]

Is it possible that with the power your engine is putting out, that before where the tyres would spin that now the entire drive train is under a much increased load. that the engine is now pinging, where before it would spin wheels.

Scotty

[BALLBREAKER]

  F6 UTE said:

  BALLBREAKER said:

Hi guys had the same problems with the F6,iam running 330 rwkw. Fitted a set of st115 azenis on the rear 265 35 18 great rubber traction is there now.sure it will smoke in first but throw into second & it just chirps hard throw it into 3rd & nothing no wheel spin. put it this way with the sp9000 smoke first second & 3rd no probs & it never pinged,now with st115 & full tank of juice it somtimes pings,wtf I need a retune because I changed rubber.They are very quiet,also I have been told they wear out quick,that the price you pay for traction I guess.CHEERS BB

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Good to see you got some decent rubber BB, can you see now how it's possible to get exceptional times to 100kph in the manual with power??

Never underestimate good rubber.

As for 'good' track/race/road rubber, there will always be comprimises, nice 'R' Spec rubber is cheap, but compared to wear, it's exceptionally expensive.

Also the R spec stuff needs to be brought up to good temps to be at it's best, and is not ideal for dragging as it takes too long to heat up.

MT's on the street imo on a cold day are hopeless, also night time it's plain dangerous. I turn mine ( the MT's ) more on the way to the drags than my street tyres do on the same roads...

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F6 ute ive got good rubber, even having ago with sti & evos still cant get them staight off the light but when I change into 2nd its game over at the momment anyway,gona get my ars kicking soon I see it in my dreams I mean nightmares. I still dont think I can come cloes to a 0 to 100 in 3.6 not me.CHEERSBB